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bcall2043
08-23-12, 10:50 PM
Today a power hacksaw followed me home today. I have to find some way to stop this from happening!:lmao: It is a project that will go on the back burner which is already overloaded. I am surprised that the wife let me go get it. She must want something!:bitingnails:

This is the second power hacksaw to come my way. A friend brought one back from up near Boston and dumped it in my yard. It had been out in the weather too long to do anything with so it is still out behind the barn. The one I brought home today is restorable and got a spot in the garage. It looks mostly complete as far as I know but then I have a lot to learn before saying for sure.

Any information anyone has about this type of saw is welcome as I will need to learn as I go.

I know everyone likes pictures so attached are some initial as-found photos. I will inspect, clean, and rust protect it in the next few days. Maybe I will learn more as I do that.

Thanks, Benny

7HC
08-24-12, 12:15 AM
It's certainly got a lot more character than the HF 4x6 bandsaw I bought recently.

That one has to be worth restoring if only for the pleasure of looking at it.

M

Old Iron
08-24-12, 12:54 AM
I have one about that size in the rebuild part of the old shop. It almost looks the same but a differand brand.

It looks like to me that yours is all there.

And if you need blades theres ebay and http://www.victornet.com/subdepartments/Power-Hacksaw-Blades/1705.html

Paul
Found a picture of mine.

bcall2043
08-24-12, 11:14 AM
..............And if you need blades theres ebay and http://www.victornet.com/subdepartments/Power-Hacksaw-Blades/1705.html............
Paul

Paul,
Thanks for the blade source info. I am a ways off from needing blades but have filed the link away.

The old saw brings back memories. When I first went to work the company I worked for had larger power hacksaws that ran all the time just to keep up. Raymond, the operator, was one of the busiest guys in the shop. The power hacksaws were all replaced by the faster bandsaws.

Benny

bcall2043
08-24-12, 08:44 PM
I guess I am okay with the wife about the new/old hacksaw. She came through the garage a little while ago and stopped at the power hacksaw and said "That thing sure is cute". I still think she is working up to letting me know what she wants!:bitingnails:

Started do some research for my saw today. Found a lot of links but one of the most useful one so far is for a manual for the Sawmaster power hack saw also made by Miller Knuth. It has information about blades, adjustments, operation, and maintenance. No manual for the one I have yet but a saw is a saw, right? I know nothing about using one and it a good starting place. Meanwhile the band saw did what cutting I needed done today.

Anyone interested in a power hacksaw manual the Sawmaster link is below:
http://www.rustyiron.com/literature/Sawmaster_Power_Hacksaw.pdf (http://www.rustyiron.com/literature/Sawmaster_Power_Hacksaw.pdf)
The link might prove useful for other materials some are looking for.

Looking at photos of other's MK power hacksaws on the internet I have found that my saw is missing a few pieces. I don't think anything is missing that would stop it from being usable. Also noticed today that one piece was broken and welded at some point. The repair seems to be done well so should not be an issue. Just need to check the alignment when I get to it.

Benny

7HC
08-24-12, 09:46 PM
Anyone interested in a power hacksaw manual the Sawmaster link is below:
http://www.rustyiron.com/literature/Sawmaster_Power_Hacksaw.pdf (http://www.rustyiron.com/literature/Sawmaster_Power_Hacksaw.pdf)
The link might prove useful for other materials some are looking for.

Benny

That manual was an interesting read. I noticed that on the blade frame support bar they appear to have used an example of engine turning/machine turning as a decorative finish, a subject discussed on another thread.

In fact attention to appearance was obviously a major consideration in the original design; the shape of the legs, the shape of the cutouts on the belt guard, and the turning on the frame all contribute to the 'character' I referred to earlier and is possibly why your wife thinks it's cute.

Should look great when it's done.

M

Old Iron
08-24-12, 11:26 PM
Benny thanks for the link for the manual i haven't looked for one yet. If there is anything you need a picture of or measurements for let me know.

Paul

bcall2043
08-25-12, 11:28 AM
Benny thanks for the link for the manual i haven't looked for one yet. If there is anything you need a picture of or measurements for let me know.

Paul

Paul,
Thanks for the offer. Check your PM.
Benny

bcall2043
08-26-12, 10:00 PM
Got frustrated with an electrical repair project this afternoon so stopped and tried cleaning some of the rust and dirt off the little MK power hacksaw. Using WD-40, wire brush, and steel wool it is cleaning up better than I though it would. Just got started and have a ways to go. Need to take it apart to do it right but not today. It is still a back burner project.

I have included a couple of new photos. The large photo shows the cleaning progress and has an arrow pointing to the area of a missing lever. There is also a drink can to show the size of the "cute little saw". For progress reference the last photo in the first post is from about the same angle. The small photo is a clip from a photo of someone's saw from another web site showing what I think is the correct lever. If anyone has one of these little saws I would appreciate if you could provide a sketch with dimensions. If not I will have to fake it. Best I can tell all the lever does is hold the saw arm in the UP position while loading and startup.

Benny

Old Iron
08-26-12, 11:28 PM
Benny I'll check mine tomorrow it has the same arm, Will get some pictures and measurement's mite even take it off prolly would be better.

Paul

Gary Max
08-27-12, 06:57 AM
Great looking saw Benny------ I still think it would look better sitting in my shop.

Old Iron
08-27-12, 09:39 AM
Benny

Here are the pictures of the parts, there is 2 different ones one is spring loaded to hold the other on in place.

If you'll pm me your address I'll mail the tracing of the parts. To many angles to get and this mite work better for you.

Looks like mine is different than yours. But maybe these will work or you could build a defferent bracket also. I can get mine off if you decide to. Mine must be a 3167,3114 or 3114A.

Paul

Old Iron
08-27-12, 09:43 AM
Great looking saw Benny------ I still think it would look better sitting in my shop.

Gary wait till he gets it all fixed and painted then get it.:rofl::rofl:

Paul

bcall2043
08-27-12, 10:00 AM
Benny

Here are the pictures of the parts, there is 2 different ones one is spring loaded to hold the other on in place.

If you'll pm me your address I'll mail the tracing of the parts. To many angles to get and this mite work better for you.

Looks like mine is different than yours. But maybe these will work or you could build a defferent bracket also. I can get mine off if you decide to. Mine must be a 3167,3114 or 3114A.

Paul

Goon morning Paul,

Thanks for the offer. I believe you are right about yours being different. The photo of your saw that you posted looks like a totally different model. Before you take anymore parts off of your saw, let me do some more checking on the one I have. I have been looking for photos taken from different angles on the internet and have a manual for a saw more similar to mine than yours. I think the lever for the one I have is one piece and the mounting bracket is still in place on the saw.

I'm off this morning to look at the camel back drill press. Will contact your later today with more information about that. I will also be checking with the previous owner of the saw I have about the possibility that he still has the lever.

Benny

bcall2043
08-27-12, 10:03 AM
Great looking saw Benny------ I still think it would look better sitting in my shop.

Gary,
I really did not need another saw but it looked so neat when we first met and it is looking better and better setting in my shop.

Benny

Gary Max
08-27-12, 08:22 PM
Heck Benny I have been hunting for one for two years---- someday I will find one.

bcall2043
08-27-12, 09:51 PM
Heck Benny I have been hunting for one for two years---- someday I will find one.

Gary,

The trick is to not look and not need and you will fall into one!

Benny

Gary Max
08-28-12, 03:14 AM
Benny I thought I found one last weekend----- but--------- you never did show back up Sunday---------:rofl:

Rbeckett
08-28-12, 08:51 AM
Benny,
Did momma ever decide what she wanted yet? Mine only lets her wants go about a week before she declares her real purpose. Last time she did that I bought her a Torchmate 4X4 small shop machine to make yard art on in her spare time. She can run the crap out of that lil machine and always gets better than 80% plate usage from a 4X8 sheet. It's scary, she has a tool account on all of the tool trucks I use and buys more stuff at HF when we go to town for supplies and blades. Gotta love an iron workin wife, she's definately a keeper, even before I found out she loves to weld and do tom boys stuff in the shop more than me. Sure makes acquiring a new or needed tool much easir too. All I have to do is say we neeed it, and wait till she bangs her knuckles or has an issue and the tool just shows up after that. Guys, I love that stuff, it's Christmas at my house year round. Hope you guys find one or have one like that when you get a bit older and ready to retire or at least slow down some. Have fun.
Bob

bcall2043
08-28-12, 01:33 PM
Benny,
Did momma ever decide what she wanted yet?.......................when you get a bit older and ready to retire or at least slow down some. Have fun. Bob

Morning Bob,

The wife's current interest is stained glass and she let me know that she wants a saw that will cut glass. She then pointed one out on the net.....not cheap like me! I told her I would surely grap one if it came into the scrap yard.:lmao:


Already a bit older and slowed down. Retired since 09 and so far today I have only walked the dog once and mowed 1/3 of the front yard.

Benny

7HC
08-28-12, 03:45 PM
....

The wife's current interest is stained glass and she let me know that she wants a saw that will cut glass.


I'm always learning new stuff here. Certainly didn't know you could saw thin glass.
I always scribe it with diamond tip glass cutter then snap it along the line if it's a straight cut, or nibble it bit by bit with pincers if it's a curve, then finish with fine grit abrasive cloth or stone.

Do you have a link to that saw?

M

bcall2043
08-29-12, 10:52 AM
I'm always learning new stuff here........................

Do you have a link to that saw?

M

I hope we all are learning here. I know I am.

I did not know glass cutting methods other than what you mentioned until the wife got interested in stained glass. There are several different styles of glass saws. The wife wants one with the diamond impregnated wire for cutting tite shapes. These work like a wood scroll saw except with the round diamond wire blade and water coolant. Link to some photos and info: http://www.delphiglass.com/search (http://www.delphiglass.com/search)
Who knows, maybe I can make this work for me. It might be handy to the hobby machinist to cut hard heat treated materials or carbide tooling.:thinking:

Benny

7HC
08-29-12, 11:07 AM
I hope we all are learning here. I know I am.

I did not know glass cutting methods other than what you mentioned until the wife got interested in stained glass. There are several different styles of glass saws. The wife wants one with the diamond impregnated wire for cutting tite shapes. These work like a wood scroll saw except with the round diamond wire blade and water coolant. Link to some photos and info: http://www.delphiglass.com/search (http://www.delphiglass.com/search)
Who knows, maybe I can make this work for me. It might be handy to the hobby machinist to cut hard heat treated materials or carbide tooling.:thinking:

Benny

Interesting stuff in that link, but WOW, the prices, and I thought our hobby was expensive! :yikes:

M

Erx
10-23-12, 04:26 AM
Got frustrated with an electrical repair project this afternoon so stopped and tried cleaning some of the rust and dirt off the little MK power hacksaw. Using WD-40, wire brush, and steel wool it is cleaning up better than I though it would. Just got started and have a ways to go. Need to take it apart to do it right but not today. It is still a back burner project.

I have included a couple of new photos. The large photo shows the cleaning progress and has an arrow pointing to the area of a missing lever. There is also a drink can to show the size of the "cute little saw". For progress reference the last photo in the first post is from about the same angle. The small photo is a clip from a photo of someone's saw from another web site showing what I think is the correct lever. If anyone has one of these little saws I would appreciate if you could provide a sketch with dimensions. If not I will have to fake it. Best I can tell all the lever does is hold the saw arm in the UP position while loading and startup.

Benny

Just joined this group and saw the post about your MK power hacksaw. I found one a couple years ago, in running condition, but rather worn and missing lots of "accessories". I didn't have the bracket or arm to hold the saw up, so I cast some parts. The swinging cam has notches in the edge that engage the support plate on the saw frame. The last picture shows the patterns and the extra cam I cast of aluminum. If you are interested in this solution, let me know.
If you or others have the cams to lift the saw on the return stroke, I'd like some explanation of how they work. Those parts are missing on my saw, and I'm tempted to fabricate the pieces.
Rex
416864168841687

bcall2043
10-24-12, 11:20 AM
Just joined this group and saw the post about your MK power hacksaw............f you are interested in this solution, let me know.

If you or others have the cams to lift the saw on the return stroke, I'd like some explanation of how they work. Those parts are missing on my saw, and I'm tempted to fabricate the pieces.
Rex

Rex,
Welcom to the group. Nice design and casting job.

Thanks for the offer but I no longer have the saw. I really did not need a power hacksaw or another project but could not resist adopting the saw from the scrap yard. Bringing old tools home is an addiction. Fellow forum member Gary Max needed/wanted a power hacksaw so I let him become it's caretaker. You can see in the following link what he has done with it so far if you have not already found his post. http://www.hobby-machinist.com/showthread.php/8725-Power-Hacksaw-finds-new-home-yipppeeeeee?p=73393#post73393

Miller Knuth made a number of different models and I was able to find a manual for the MK "Sawmaster" that appears to be the same saw I had. It had a model name but seemed mechanically to be exactly same as mine. I don't remember exactly where I found it but if you want a copy PM me with and address and I will email it to you.

I also found a guy who had NOS parts from a business he purchased. I gave his contact info to Gary but Gary told me he was not responding. He may be like me and not do his email very often. Maybe Gary will jump in here with an update on the parts situation.

Benny