Logan 200??? Or ???

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I need some help from you guys to let me get an idea of what to do. I have an opportunity to purchase what I believe to be a Logan 200. The man said it has no numbers stamped. Hopefully he just overlooked them. My biggest concern is there are no change gears. Can threads be cut with just the gears that came on the Lathe and if so which tpi can I cut? I have a video of it running and it doesn't sound bad to me. Then again my ears ring constantly and I should have my hearing aids in. I know it needs a belt. But, it does have some tooling, probably not much and it has those nice old style metal legs. I appreciate anything you can tell me. Thanks, Bill

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You will want a full set of change gears eventually. If it only includes what is shown you will be spending a bunch of money on tooling and the price should reflect that. It does have the cast iron legs (good) but appears to be missing the gear cover and the belt cover. All the missing parts can typically be found on eBay but they can add up fast. You can probably cut exactly one thread pitch with the installed gears. :) What pitch depends on what gears are installed.
 
What he said. The 200 has a 'peg leg' supporting the motor, nice if it's there but I've seen people just use a length of pipe too. Sweet machines when set up right, very capable for smaller projects.
 
You will want a full set of change gears eventually. If it only includes what is shown you will be spending a bunch of money on tooling and the price should reflect that. It does have the cast iron legs (good) but appears to be missing the gear cover and the belt cover. All the missing parts can typically be found on eBay but they can add up fast. You can probably cut exactly one thread pitch with the installed gears. :) What pitch depends on what gears are installed.
I was afraid I would not be able to do much with the threading portion. It does have the door to cover the gears, but there is no cover for the belt going to the motor. I would have to drive about 3 1/2 hours (one way) to get the lathe and I was going to offer $400. Is that about right or should I just forget about this one and wait?
 
It's easier to have a whole lathe to learn on that trying to learn and learn what bits you need. Does it come with any stuff past the 3 jaw chuck its equipped with?

Stuart
 
It's easier to have a whole lathe to learn on that trying to learn and learn what bits you need. Does it come with any stuff past the 3 jaw chuck its equipped with?

Stuart
The things I see in the few pictures I have show "T" handle for the chuck, 2 live centers, 3 wrenches, and 2 tool holders along with the 1 cutting tool in the lamp post. The owner emailed me last night and said his Dad told him it was a Logan/Wards mid 1940's model. He found some numbers, which are probably the serial number, of 5876. I emailed him the quote about being able to cut threads with the gears already installed. I have thoughts of getting a Grizzly 7x14 or 7x12, but I like the heft and look of this old lathe. It would be a good project for the right price, what ever that is.
 
The Wards branded Logans typically don't have a belt cover, so you are not missing anything. Logan change gears typically run $10-$25 each actual selling price on Ebay. (Some seller ask more but that's typically what they really sell for.) Personally I would pick the Logan over one of the 7x lathes. Check out the Logan FAQ about location of serial number:

http://www.lathe.com/faq/index.html
 
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The Wards branded Logans typically don't have a belt cover, so you are not missing anything. Logan change gears typically run $10-$25 each actual selling price on Ebay. (Some seller ask more but that's typically what they really sell for.) Personally I would pick the Logan over one of the 7x lathes.

I am with you on which one I would rather have. Do you know if it should have the "peg leg" for the motor?
 
I'm not sure if the Wards lathes have a peg leg. My Logan 820 was missing the peg leg, on the early lathes this was just a piece of pipe anyway so it's no big deal.
 
That is indeed a Wards version of the 200. No primary drive covers. Check for countershaft wear. If it has no broken gears or other obvious damage, it is likely worth $400, but get it as cheap as you can. Parts are plentiful, but the cost does add up. If it's in good running condition it is obviously far better than any Chinee stuff. I imagine that stuff is getting better, but the MW will be better for your soul.
 
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