Noise Levels During High Speed Operation

I am well enough versed with machines to determine that the source of the noise is the headstock bearings...my question is if this is indicating a problem, and if so, what? Since I've been playing with bearing preload can this be a overtightening of the preload collar issue? Wear? Do I need to replace the bearings? ???
 
Over tightening could be a possible issue. Back it off a little and try again. As the spindle heats up the bearings will get looser but you should not have that kind of noise at start up.

The data sheet for Velocite states sleeve bearings. I believe a call to Exxon Mobil would be of help. My thoughts are that Velocite 6 is too thin. We use it in our Landis cylindrical grinder at work in the wheel head, but it is a oil bath not an fairly open system like the lathe is.

SAE 20 should be much thicker if memory serves. I think the DTE series would be the likely place to look

Velocite #6 is only ISO Viscosity Grade 10
http://www.ulei-mobil.ro/pdf/MobilIndustrieDataSheet/Velocite Oil Numbered Series pds.pdf
Pierre
 
Unfortunately, as written, the Atlas Technical Bulletin instructions for preloading the bearings only works if you have had the left cone off of the spindle. Or if the left cone were a slip or light push fit onto the spindle, which every recent report indicates that it is not. It is apparently on most spindles a moderate interference fit. This is OK once it is properly installed. But not good for circumstances where the collar may be taken off and replaced by a collet closer or in your case a spider unless you understand what you have and don't repeat the instructions. In other words, when you removed the collar in order to install the spider, the bearing probably did not move. Assuming that it was properly installed before you removed the collar, it is now three teeth tighter than zero end float, not 1-1/2.

My recommendation would be to remove the spider. Using a piloted protector and hammer, or better the method of a length of all-thread through the spindle with necessary pieces on each end, pull the spindle back out of the left bearing cone until you have discernible end float. Then follow the instructions to reduce the end float to zero and then go 1-1/2 teeth on the spindle gear farther. In the future, if you switch between threaded collar and some accessory such as the spider, only run the accessory up snug and then lock it. You do not want to move the bearing again.
 
On the two lathes that I use (Jet BDB-1340A, yes I know they are not Atlas), currently using Mobil DTE Heavy Medium, which has an ISO Viscosity of 68. SAE 20 spans a range from 32 to 68.
 
Damn near in tears tonight...
Pulled the spindle tonight. Bearing rollers are substantially pitted...looks more corrosion based than anything.
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Race is clean enough, though worn. There is a noticeable lip in the back.

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I haven't gotten the left side dust cover off yet.

Assembled in 1948.

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Anyone priced bearings from Clausing lately? Are they shipping standard or #3 precision bearings?
 
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