Oil Change On Keller Die Filer

dave d

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I want to change the oil on my recently acquired Keller model 1A die filer. Can anyone tell me how to do that?
I would appreciate some guidance on this.
Dave D
 
I don't know Kellers. However, here is the manual for my Milwaukee / Rice DF.
I won't pretend to know if the lube specs will work for the Keller.

Daryl
MN
 

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I don't know Kellers. However, here is the manual for my Milwaukee / Rice DF.
I won't pretend to know if the lube specs will work for the Keller.

Daryl
MN

This is nice to read and will help me understand my Keller, but my question is more about how to drain the oil out and where to new oil in.
 
Hi Dave, I'm surprised nobody else has picked this up yet -- I would have thought the 1A was pretty common. I do not own a 1A, but if I did this is what I would likely do:

Remove the one single bolt about midway in the front of the sump casting below the table. From pictures I've seen it looks to be about a 1/4 - 20 or so and often with a square head. I'm thinking that's the oil level sight hole, so with that out I'd get as much as I could out through there. Then, unless you've managed to find a drain plug somewhere but it sounds like you haven't, I'd pull the side cover off. Three bolts holding it on, the one with the name cast into it. With that off I'm guessing I should have complete access to the inside of the oil sump and all the workings. I'd clean out all the crud and remaining oil, and then if nothing else wanted to be done I'd replace the cover. I tend to shy away from silicone gasket makers and use cork instead -- it works for me but whatever. With the cover back on, the only thing left would be to fill with oil again until the level came up to the bottom of the hole in the front (the screw I took out first). I don't think the sump is supposed to be full-up, the oil splashes around in there while the machine is running and picks up via the workings from the bottom. I'd probably use a 30w non-detergent oil to refill it.

So that would be my plan. Like I said, I don't have a machine like yours and never have. My only experience with Keller is my power hacksaw which in places has more provision for getting new oil in than getting the old oil out. I did some poking around looking for manuals but didn't have a lot of luck, so what I've suggested above is based solely on pictures in other posts. I could be totally off base in what I've suggested -- it wouldn't be the first time!

Good luck, and let us know how you make out. Could be useful for some other guys down the line.

-frank
 
Hi Frank,
I suspected all along that the bolt in front would drain the oil, but I had no idea how to add any. While I was waiting for a reply and was cleaning this up, I removed the table leveling screws to clean the rust and gunk off of them. It was then I noticed that would be a perfect place to add oil. I used a piece of wire to confirm that there was oil in there and to show me the level. I poured out the old oil which had a red look to it but looked pretty good. I added the proper oil until it was at the level of the bolt on the front and will put it all together on Thursday. Thanks for the great advice.
Dave
 
Sweet, glad it worked out for you Dave.

-frank
 
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