Peerless Shaper Followed Me Home

That's a nice shaper - looks to be in great condition. Congrats!
 
francist said:
View attachment 107936 View attachment 107937 View attachment 107938 View attachment 107936 View attachment 107937 View attachment 107938 Scooped a little 8" shaper yesterday, yay!

Made by Peerless out of Guelph, Ontario I believe. Not sure how old it is but seems to be in nice order. My buddy had to bail on me before we could unload, so the little girl is still stuck in my truck. I did manage to horse the stand off and into the shop by myself though, Egyptian-style with lots of skidding and dragging. The motor is pretty fudgy, but it's got a nice and original variable speed drive instead of a step pulley arrangement.

I'll put up a few more pics when we're off-loaded, but I know you guys want proof so here's a few for now. She's a bit camera shy still.

-frank
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I got one of these a few years ago and had some fun with it but I bolted the stand to the floor to stop it walking. With hindsight this was a mistake as the main shaft broke after a few hours operation. I think I should have run it much slower then the variable speed drive allowed.
The main gearwheel was cast with the shaft and appeared to be a very intricate piece of machining so I scrapped the unit. Probably have some of the drive screws etc still in my junk bin. Have fun.
Frank W.
 
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Frank W. said:
I got one of these a few years ago and had some fun with it but I bolted the stand to the floor to stop it walking. With hindsight this was a mistake as the main shaft broke after a few hours operation. I think I should have run it much slower then the variable speed drive allowed.
The main gearwheel was cast with the shaft and appeared to be a very intricate piece of machining so I scrapped the unit. Probably have some of the drive screws etc still in my junk bin. Have fun.
Frank W.
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That's interesting, two of the same machine showing up within spitting distance of each other yet they don't appear to have been that common. Or should I say, they don't appear to be that common now.

I'll heed your warning about the main shaft. I know the motor is a replacement on this machine and it did seem to me that it was running too fast as well, so one of the first things I want to do is knock the rpms down a bit with a supplementary reduction pulley. I've bought a few machines in the past where previous owners have put on faster motors in the hopes of making the machine work faster. It does, of course, but not for long! So in your scrap bin there Frank W, you wouldn't happen to have the lantern tool holder for yours would you? Mine was set up for internal keyways and nothing else, so I need to come up with the tooling and holder for regular work.

Thanks for the comment and tips. I've been to Quadra a couple times on the way to Redonda -- nice little place.

-frank
 
francist said:
That's interesting, two of the same machine showing up within spitting distance of each other yet they don't appear to have been that common. Or should I say, they don't appear to be that common now.

I'll heed your warning about the main shaft. I know the motor is a replacement on this machine and it did seem to me that it was running too fast as well, so one of the first things I want to do is knock the rpms down a bit with a supplementary reduction pulley. I've bought a few machines in the past where previous owners have put on faster motors in the hopes of making the machine work faster. It does, of course, but not for long! So in your scrap bin there Frank W, you wouldn't happen to have the lantern tool holder for yours would you? Mine was set up for internal keyways and nothing else, so I need to come up with the tooling and holder for regular work.

Thanks for the comment and tips. I've been to Quadra a couple times on the way to Redonda -- nice little place.

-frank
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Yup, I have the lantern holder, in fact the complete vertical slide. I also have the motor with the variable diameter cone pulley for the flat belt. The motor is slide mounted on a bolted on cast iron frame and the speed varies by screwing the slide in or out, probably have all the pieces since my scrap bin has not been emptied since I took it apart.
With this setup I don't think a reduction pulley would be necessary. The interesting bits are mostly in a box in a corner of my shop and the main castings in a carport for hauling away so you can take your pick, I would be glad if someone can use them. Missing are the mainshaft /gearwheel and the main slide & gibs which I intend for a press brake project. The vise I am using with my bench-top mill, it uses the same crank handle as the manual advance crew so it is probably original

I also got mine in Victoria but the colour scheme was green and yellow. Possibly they both came from a high school shop, certainly mine did not seem to have been used much.
Please contact me by email; wallace@pacificcoast.net to discuss what you want. If you are likely to come this way it would be easiest to eyeball things yourself.
Cheers
Frank
 
Hope its alright to post this in your thread.
Seams Peerless shapers came in a couple of sizes and were spread across the country.
Bought this 18 inch one today, now have to figure out how to get it home. Im making a ball park guess at 4000 pounds.
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Greg

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f350ca said:
Hope its alright to post this in your thread.
Seams Peerless shapers came in a couple of sizes and were spread across the country.

Heck yah, the more the merrier!

That's a bit bigger than mine alright -- by about 3500 lbs. Nice find Greg, I didn't expect to see another one so soon. I've not been able to find much information on the Peerless line or what all they made, but yes, I do expect they were fairly common in their day. Any ideas on the age of yours?

Looking forward to seeing some more of it when you get it home -- that'll be fun. Thanks for posting!

-frank
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Sounds like Im having about the same luck as you finding any info, As for age, its hard to tell if the electric motor mount was factory or not but it drives a V belt pulley on the machine that I expect was factory. The clutch is a shoe arrangement inside the pulley. So its post flat belt line shaft. Maybe 40's on ?
 
That sounds about right. Unfortunately your lovely dog's head is right in front of the pulley so I can't see if it looks similar to mine :acne:
When I was cleaning the motor up on mine I noticed a 1938 patent date on the rubber mounts. I know patent dates aren't to be used definitively, but it did corroborate what I was already thinking.

Did you get any tooling with it? I happen to have an Armstrong No. 40 universal holder that might work on your machine. I do know that it's too big for mine.

-frank
 
Looking at the pulley on yours, this one is quite different.Will get some better pictures when I get it home. There is a support that comes out from the machine to hold the pulley which free wheels on the shaft. A set of shoes engage the inside of the 4 groove pulley to act as a clutch driving the input shaft.
No tooling save a couple of cutters in the tool post. Wish there was a vice.

Greg
 
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