Just Ordered Pm-727m, What Do I Need

On the drill chuck. I prefer a keyed chuck on a straight arbor.
Keyed chucks are shorter, and grip tighter than keyless chucks (not to mention much cheaper).
The straight arbor is also shorter than the R8 arbor.
You have a nice big mill, it will beg you to fill it up. then the day will come when you will have trouble getting the drill chuck in an out...

Also, do not forget break in, but it in each gear for 10 minutes, then change the oil.
So you also will need some gear oil for the head (those do have gears?)

Ohh,
it looks like you also need a lathe :)
 
joshua43214 said:
On the drill chuck. I prefer a keyed chuck on a straight arbor.
Keyed chucks are shorter, and grip tighter than keyless chucks (not to mention much cheaper).
The straight arbor is also shorter than the R8 arbor.
You have a nice big mill, it will beg you to fill it up. then the day will come when you will have trouble getting the drill chuck in an out...

Also, do not forget break in, but it in each gear for 10 minutes, then change the oil.
So you also will need some gear oil for the head (those do have gears?)

Ohh,
it looks like you also need a lathe :)
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Why would that happen?
 
It requires a lot more clearance to get an R8 mounted keyless chuck in and out of the spindle.
There is also a simple convenience thing. If you use a straight arbor, you can swap other tooling in and out that use the same size arbor with out having to swap collets. I use mostly 1/2" stuff, it is nice to be able to swap between the center finder, a fly mill, end mill, and drill chuck with out having to swap the collet and with very minimal head raising/lowering. I have a really nice Albrecht R8 drill arbor collecting dust because I got sick of the size and inconvenience of it.
 
joshua43214 said:
It requires a lot more clearance to get an R8 mounted keyless chuck in and out of the spindle.
There is also a simple convenience thing. If you use a straight arbor, you can swap other tooling in and out that use the same size arbor with out having to swap collets. I use mostly 1/2" stuff, it is nice to be able to swap between the center finder, a fly mill, end mill, and drill chuck with out having to swap the collet and with very minimal head raising/lowering. I have a really nice Albrecht R8 drill arbor collecting dust because I got sick of the size and inconvenience of it.
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joshua,
Oh I like that idea right away, I am about to purchase this 727 mill, new. Thanks I will do some research on the web today, see it I can locate one. Any suggestion as to a brand that would be preferred. I really do not want to do the collet thing, to much like a dermal tool ... LOL

For a fact I like your idea so much I am going to hold off ordering the mill, want to have this sorted out before had, will save me from buying somethingI would end up never using.

Thanks and best regards,
Greg
 
pepi said:
For a fact I like your idea so much I am going to hold off ordering the mill, want to have this sorted out before had, will save me from buying somethingI would end up never using.
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Greg, I would think twice about waiting to order the mill. Or at least talk to Matt or Nicole about how many 727's they have left in stock. If they run out, you may end up waiting months for a new batch to come in. Oh, and excellent choice on the 727m. I said a few months ago that there didn't seem to be very many guys buying them, but now it looks like they will be a permanent machine in PM's line-up. They do fill what was a large gap. Good luck, JR49
 
JR49 said:
Greg, I would think twice about waiting to order the mill. Or at least talk to Matt or Nicole about how many 727's they have left in stock. If they run out, you may end up waiting months for a new batch to come in. Oh, and excellent choice on the 727m. I said a few months ago that there didn't seem to be very many guys buying them, but now it looks like they will be a permanent machine in PM's line-up. They do fill what was a large gap. Good luck, JR49
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You think the current heard is the first run of the 747?
 
If it were me, I might call Matt and find out. :)
 
pepi said:
joshua,
Oh I like that idea right away, I am about to purchase this 727 mill, new. Thanks I will do some research on the web today, see it I can locate one. Any suggestion as to a brand that would be preferred. I really do not want to do the collet thing, to much like a dermal tool ... LOL

For a fact I like your idea so much I am going to hold off ordering the mill, want to have this sorted out before had, will save me from buying somethingI would end up never using.

Thanks and best regards,
Greg
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I just left QMT a few hours ago, I am pretty sure Matt would not have been so nice to me if I lost him a sale lol.

Really though, You want to do the collet thing. Collets are what we use in mills. the type of collet used in a Dremel is more akin to an E series collet (which are extremely popular). R series and C series collets are a different animal and a designed to center and grip well.
You can use tool holders, but they are less accurate (as a general rule) and far more expensive that collets. Or as another person here once said "tool holders", for when you simply must have run out in your tool."
Tool holders are primarily for CNC or protecting a Morris taper, but some folks do use them with certain set ups.
 
joshua43214 said:
I just left QMT a few hours ago, I am pretty sure Matt would not have been so nice to me if I lost him a sale lol.

Really though, You want to do the collet thing. Collets are what we use in mills. the type of collet used in a Dremel is more akin to an E series collet (which are extremely popular). R series and C series collets are a different animal and a designed to center and grip well.
You can use tool holders, but they are less accurate (as a general rule) and far more expensive that collets. Or as another person here once said "tool holders", for when you simply must have run out in your tool."
Tool holders are primarily for CNC or protecting a Morris taper, but some folks do use them with certain set ups.
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Just to be clear I am going to buy the mill that is not the question. If the collets run more true, and a straight arbor not so. Thinking I would not want that for my setup, thanks for saying, what is this dusty really nice Albrecht R8 drill arbor you are talking about? Would it be something I might find useful, as I now reconsider the Collet angle, would you be interested in selling it? Found the site, do not know what i am looking at, as it might apply to the 747.

Yes I am a mill boot, I 'm sure it shows most of my questions will be about the tooling. I have looked at every mill out there and the 747 is a hobby hog, the gear speed drive is a plus I believe.
 
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