How to get the most out of a DRO on the lathe?

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Those of you who are experienced in using a DRO on your lathe how do you use it and what does it do for you?
 
This is an abosulutely awesome question. I await the answe of those with experience..

can we get the DRO type at the beginning of the response so we can understand / account for differences? I am contemplating the igage type remote deos, just because of budget constraints.
 
Daver:

I have both the igaging on my G0619 mill and an Easson ES-8A on my PM 1236 Lathe. I have mixed feelings about the Igaging units probably because I need to mount them better and I really don't know how to get the most out of what I have. I just got the ES-8A and am learning.

Bob
 
That's a very good question. I'm sure the responses will be as varied as the users. I say that because with DRO you get so much flexibility that you are only limited by your imagination.

I'll start by giving one example that works (for me) in both ID and OD work. When I start cutting a diameter, I skim until I get a cleanup, if I'm close to finish size anyway, and zero the readout there. I back away, stop the machine and get a good, accurate measurement of the diameter. On my Sony, and I expect the majority of units, I can manually enter a value. So safely away in -Z-, I dial the tool back to the position I cut in.....and where I set the zero, then enter the actual cut/measured diameter value. Back to the work, another pass where I verify that it cut to what I dialed. I do it again as I approach the finish diameter. On the last couple of passes are important that the depth of cut be the same, so any pushoff is predictable. If it consistently cuts 0.0010 less than I dial, then I could look for the problem, such as tool height, or I could just dial in the extra 0.0010, and on the last pass, it should be right on target.

Another tip is while deep in a bore, where you cannot see the back-side of the hole or the bar, one way to make sure you don't back away from the cut too far and mar the bore is to just get off the cut diameter, and pull the tool back out. And if you're facing the bottom of the bore, if you have set the bar as I described above, you don't have to guess when you face back to the center. You know when you it 0.0000 diameter. Going past will possibly chip your tool because then it would be running backwards on the facing cut.

OK, there's mine to start. I'll let others add their tips. As I said, there are many, many things you can do with them.
 
I have the igaging on the x axis of my lathe. So far, I've found it's repeatability to be not so good. It's also difficult for me to read it because of the small size and the lack of back light. I do need more light over the lathe though. I haven't tried mounting the y axis yet, because it's going to take some imagination to get it mounted. I'll need to make something different for all the brackets from the look of it.
 
The most useful function I like about the DRO is the absolute & incremental feature. You can use one tool to do an op in absolute, then switch tools & to incremental to do another op, then switch back without loosing your original reading with the first tool. The value for absolute also carries over to incremental mode which also can be very useful in many different situations

As Tony mentioned, the ability to enter in a value of the measured part. I have a lathe specific DRO so not sure if the universal models have this as well. For the X axis I have a button to switch from radius & diameter mode. You can also set in the parameters to always read radius. In diameter mode, much like Tony described, I do a pass & measure the diameter of the workpiece, then enter that dimension in the DRO. Now the DRO is displaying the diameter of the workpiece & I can then turn down to the diameter I'm aiming for rather than using the DRO to display depth of cut. With this method, I used the dial on the cross slide for refrence on how much DOC I am taking each pass. Two easy ways to tell if you have a lathe specific DRO or universal. A lathe specific DRO with have the axes label X & Z where a universal DRO will have the axes label X & Y and will also usually have a setting in the parameters to set the DRO for mill, lathe, grinder, etc. A lathe specific DRO will not have all the mill specific functions.

Although I don't use it much, you can set in the memory offsets for up to 99 different tools. Once you get this setup & are comfortable with it, you can swap tools without having to reindicate each tool to the work piece.

If you have a universal DRO with mill functions, you can actually use the line hole drilling function for evenly spaced grooving.

Your ES-8A has a feature that will display axis speed when feeding. Only displays in MM though but It's probably not useful at all on the lathe. More useful on the mill to use as a learning curve if feeding by hand.

There's a few more that I have used a few times but I'm drawing a blank right now. It kind of just comes natural to me when the situation arises.

And to add, when threading, I don't use the DRO when coming to the end of cutting a thread for the Z axis. I find using a dial indicator on the way for the carriage is still the best way.
 
I have the igaging on the x axis of my lathe. So far, I've found it's repeatability to be not so good. It's also difficult for me to read it because of the small size and the lack of back light. I do need more light over the lathe though. I haven't tried mounting the y axis yet, because it's going to take some imagination to get it mounted. I'll need to make something different for all the brackets from the look of it.

I've been contemplating the "y" on my 12" craftsman. i'd bet a fella could get really creative with cables and pulleys controlling one of the igaging ones. its going to be a challenge.
 
I use the Z axis for accurate length measurements and location, and the X axis most of the time for close diameter measurements, always checked with micrometer. For the X axis to be accurate, the tool has to be dead on center, and the amount removed will vary with the depth of cut, tool and material.

In short, I can live without DRO on the lathe. Milling without DRO would be a very different experience, you betcha.
 
It seems DRO would be very useful for tapers. I finally decided to get a taper attachment as I cut them frequently but usually manage to get-away with just using the compound. When doing it this way, two travel indicators are needed and DRO would probably make the setup much faster.

Ray
 
the most important thing to mee is the fact i do not need my reeding glasses to see those big letters
and that i can see any movement in a sec next thing is that i need to dial in al of my cutting tools so i can
use them without meassuring every time when i change tool
 
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