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Maynard civil war era carbine, hobby machinist built

Discussion in 'GUNSMITHING & FIREARMS' started by Alphawolf45, Oct 6, 2012.

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    Alphawolf45 Active User Active Member

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    This is my replica of Civil War era Maynard 50 caliber breech loading black powder carbine.


    I have been using tools for well more'n 35 years..I have multiple lathes and mills and surface grinder and heat treat furnace and Rockwell hardness tester, bandsaws , welders and,and,and ....I threw everything I had at this project and still had to make special cutters and setups along the way. Took approximately 3 months..Used a rifled barrel blank and store-bought nipple and I bought the 3 leaf rear sight. But made every thing else including bolts and springs..Worked from the drawing in Frank DeHaas book "More Single Shot Rifles and Actions" ..Plus had a man with an original gave me some dimensions..I used cnc mill to rough out the parts and then everything else was done on manual machines.

    Good shooter.Also have a second one half done but on back burner for a while.Its chambered in .45 acp because I load that cartridge and have plenty extra for plinking.
     

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    The work you do looks like art. Thanks.
     
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    Any chance that you have more pictures of this rifle. In 38 spl this would be cute.
     
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    I pulled hundreds of pictures off the internet showing various models of Maynards..Subtle differences.. The sporting centerfire version was offered in wood case with multiple barrels so a guy could use it as shotgun or rifle in his choice of calibers..Yes certainly would be fun in .38 special..I have the one started in .45 acp and reserve the option to build additional barrels to fit it.The couple pictures shows early in the construction. Amazing ain'it that can go from that rough to finally ready for use, working just with the machinery found in a typical well equipped home workshop.

    There are approx. 20 different breechloading civil war carbines that a guy can build if he has the tools and sufficient time.

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    nice project.
    the case colors turned out real nice
     
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    Thanks .I have CCH several guns, some turned out better than this one and several come out worse..Seems like a bit of a crapshoot... I have a new shipment of color case hardening charcoals coming Monday. I am going to re-do a Lowwall rifle I built years ago. That one was the first I ever did and I used only wood charcoal, no bone charcoal.It turned out with the hardened skin I wanted but no colors other than a washed out black color.Am pulling the gun apart in order to rust blue the new barrel I put on it last month and I will then polish the receiver and see if I can make it look better with CCH colors...

    This is the one I am going to re- color case harden next week..Sorta looks like worn cold blue dont it?
     

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    looks like a old thinning blue worn from years of use, nothing wrong with that.
     
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    Yes you and I agree on that..Its well good enough for a rifle that gets used..By re color case hardening it I run the risk of making it look gaudy..Did that with a Highwall I built that come out so bright that I couldnt tolerate it so I buffed off the colors..See that rifle after the buff- I think its now a handsome piece of work- Incidently I finished that one 3 years ago and was the last one I had finished until this Maynard...I havent actually completed very many of these kinds of projects..Still have a lot to learn if I stick with the hobby another 20 years or so. ;-)
     

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    it definitely looks good now, and you can still make out a little of the color.
     
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    Yeah that one had a much different bright pattern on either side that didnt match side to side and I couldnt stand it..I am trying to have a few handsome guns..Pretty guns are not what I am going for and gaudy isnt the goal either. Heres a couple Stevens model 44 and 1/2s that I built that look good to me
     

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    those look good too.
    i have a mauser guild rifle with a color cased receiver, bolt & bottom metal.
    the receiver, bottom metal, bolt shroud & safety all match fairly well but the bolt body has a lot more blue than the other parts.
     
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    Tell me more about the Mauser dirtyjim .Who did the case colors on it? Was it done with charcoals and then quenched in water as I am doing? I am not fluent in Mausers, dont know the alloy the receiver is made from. Particularly I am curious about the treatment given to the bolt if you know...and .What caliber is the rifle? Pictures?
     
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    i would guess it was color cased in germany between WWI & WWII since its built on a sr 98 instead of a lr 98. its in 8x57. one of my favorite rifles, its slim & trim, carries real well and shoots good.

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    i have a mauser project that will get the receiver, bolt, bottom metal and a few other small parts color cased by turnbull's when it gets a little closer to completion.
     
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    NICE looking rifle dirtyjim .I wasnt aware of any Mausers that were color case hardened....Shows how little I know.........I have just one mauser and somebody "sporterized" it years ago..I dont know enough to know what if anything can be done with it but I dont want to butcher it as I bought it from a good friend that I have lost track of......I think I'll buy a mosin and build something with its action to acquaint myself with working on bolt guns.I see in previous post you have done projects with Mosins.
     
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    I redid the Lowwall as I said I would. New rust blue on the new barrel and new colorcasehardening ..Took it from a washed out black color to a light grey with a bake on lacquer matt finish for a clean new appearance that I am very happy with.
     

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    While I share the enthusiasm for working metal with the majority here , I observe that there are not a lot of readers of the gunsmithing threads nor many replies. Thats perfectly okay, just means there isnt much incentive for guys to show gunsmithing projects they are doing.

    I finished making this rear sight yesterday from a piece of rusted leaf spring salvaged from a boat trailer..I hardened and tempered it as a spring of course..The old guns that I like usually require a thick and wide ,flat mainspring and I make them from salvaged automotive leaf springs..
     

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    nice sight. i've been able to find most of the sights for my projects execpt for a leaf & ladder sight for one of my lee speed style enfield projects, that one i'll have to make
     
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    Very few people even read this thread. Given that this is a hobby metalsworking forum and lot of you guys have lathes and mills and surface grinder and all else that allows you to build virtually anything you are interested in- I will show this pictures of my current project as a parting shot..Had hoped to inspire some more guys to build their own firearm project..It is not at all difficult if you have the tools. But there just isnt much of that interest here.

    This is a muzzleloader I am building. Color case hardened it yesterday..Need to rust blue the barrel and CCH a few more parts and it will be done...

    ....Thinking I will devote myself to civil war era projects in the future but have a few others like this one I still want to finish...If there is little or no response to this post I will back on outta here. Nice metalsworking forum though, I do send guys here .

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    Alphawolf,
    That's some very nice machine work there and the CCH came out perfect. I joined this forum when I saw a thread on a Steven's favorite build. I have the typical
    wish list of projects and thought the favorite a good place to start, one for me and one for my grandson. I'd very much like to see some of your setups and machining
    operations. That might help me get started. After the favorites maybe a Hi-wall or a transitional era repeater. Keep up the good work.

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    Good name you have ;-) .
    I dont do well with showing work in progress pictures. Anybody that has had their own machines for a while has worked out their own approach to making parts, dont need to see somebody else doing it.. Metalsworking is just commonsense with a dash of ingenuity.

    Stevens Favorites are real nice guns. I built two of them myself.. I still want to build the sideplate version of the Favorite......Hi-walls are tough to build just because there is lot of parts buried up inside where you cant see what is in a bind with what ,but will give you a heap of satisfaction as a third or 4th project..
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    I dont know what you mean by transitional era repeater but may I make a suggestion? Go on Gunbroker dot com and buy yourself a stripped Winchester 1873 lever action receiver for 'bout a hundred bucks and then build all the other parts yourself...I built a cute little .22 trapper carbine with a old bare frame that was rusted beyond use to anybody but a guy who like to weld..Cost me about a hundred bucks total and kept me entertained in the shop for a couple months.[​IMG][​IMG]
     

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