Quincy vs Champion air compressors

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  1. ome

    ome Active User Active Member

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    Hi Guys,
    so after alot of research, what i thought i would get for about 1200-1600, is more like 3000.
    I want usa made with low rpm on the pump and motor.
    No splash lubrication, pressure lubr. , 5hp 60 gallon tank two stage vertical model
    all the quincys are the cheaper Qt models and i only will buy a QR series Quincy model.
    I dont know that much about champion.
    My biggest hurdle will be to find one that has a 60 not 80 gal tank and is 65" tall.
    Basement has 75 inch beam height. How much height beyond the top of protective wire cover do you need to remove it for any maintenance?
    Any advice appreciated
    thanks,
    Jon
     
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    george wilson Global Moderator Staff Member Supporter Active Member

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    I am not familiar with Champions. But,a shop near mine at work had a big Quincy. What I liked about it was it was not screaming noisy when it came on. Due to the slower speed motor(the cheaper ones I have seen are all 3450 RPM),it just came on fairly quietly and chugged away.
     
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    You don't need a lot of headroom for a compressor. You need to be able to change the oil, and the air filters on them, but that should be it, barring repairs such as a belt replacement. That should be years away. And that wouldn't require headroom. I don't see an issue with what you have there, and think you are wise going with a slow pump.

    Quincy builds a quality compressor, imo. Have you also looked at Kellog-American? AtlasCopco? LeRoi? IR? Curtis? Sullair? Just confusing the issue?
     
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    Thanks Tony and George,
    I tried my best to research which brands were made here in usa.
    The two brands were quincy, but were recomended to only go with the QR series which only comes with a 80 gal min size, not a 60 gal tank.
    That brings the ht just to the bottom of the basement ceiling beams. I am concerned i might need to put neoprene pads under feet to make quiter and raise the often too low drain handle.
    You can see how tight this could be.
    I also wanted to run these "opinions" by you :
    check to see if able to get to drain plug and change oil without giving the compressor a bath.
    Go with a 3/4 " hookup on compressor.
    Buy the compressor that has a big head and small pulley, i imagine the pulley on the motor and not that other large flywheel.
    Buy all air connections at same time from reputable brand.
    Cast iron for pump and motor head. Not alum.
    Replace the drain line with a simple pull chain or a well made auto drain.
    Try to get a line turn off valve on the tank.
    Thanks for all the advice, this can be confusing.
    Jon
     
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    Hi guys,
    I measure again 6 times and got 78.5 " floor to bottom of beam, not 75".
    Along side of outside wall in cellar, and about 26" by 26", if that is to small a space then i have to locate one away from heating pipes which are too low.
    Thanks,
    another adventure with compressors
    Jon
     
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    Bought a Quincy in 5hp in 1990 with an 80 gallon tank. Still runs like a champ and have had to do zero maintenance on it except change the oil and air cleaner.

    Bought all my equipment new when I was a younger man hoping the equipment would at least last me through my lifetime. The Quincy was one of those investments and I do not regret buying it.
     
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    One thing you can do about the oil drain might be to use a piece of pipe to extend it out so it doesn't give things a bath.
    I did that to my old compressor right after I drained the oil the first time because I saw it was going to be an issue every change, I also put a valve on the end and a plug to prevent accidental spills.
     
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    Thank you,
    Excellent fix if needed.
    Jon
     
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    At work(school dist) most of the shop cls has Champions and one of them is a 60 gal squatty unit,to me its short.Anyway most of them have unloaders,oil coolers and a low oil cutoff switch,auto drains.Now, at the schools that have Quincy they are for controls only not for shop cls.If I was in your position I would chose the Champion,makes alittle more noise than Quincy----kroll
     
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    The ingersol 15 & 30 T series are good too, quiet and with different features. I paid 1100 for mine used and have been using it for years.
     
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    I have a Champion air compressor at my shop .It is a 25 horse 3 phase and puts out 35 cubic feet per min. It is used Monday thru Friday 8 + hours every day No problem so far.I'm Happy Kay
     
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    The I-R's are made in India now, they look like crap, rough castings etc. I have an older (US built) 5 HP type 30, great compressor. Been using it for about 20 years now with no problems. My first choice is the old Quincy with pressure lube, I have several of them that I plan on rebuilding. Champion is also a good choice, and they also make a pressure lube model, I think its a PL series. Beware of the Kellogs, made in China now. The Saylor Beale is still US made, last I heard.
     

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