New G4003G Owner, have questions......

CharlyArmy

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Just ordered the G4003G today and plan to pick it up at the showroom. I ordered the taper attachment to go with it. I just have a couple questions about the lathe.

Is the machine already filled with oil or do I need to purchase and fill the headstock?

What type of way oil are you using?

Basically what else do I need to purchase for the machine to get it up and running. I'm not talking about the machinist level or floor bolts or electrical hook ups. I have all the tooling and inserts I need (I'm a tool and Die Maker)

What isn't included with the machine that you found that you needed to start making chips?
 
Just ordered the G4003G today and plan to pick it up at the showroom. I ordered the taper attachment to go with it. I just have a couple questions about the lathe.

Is the machine already filled with oil or do I need to purchase and fill the headstock?

What type of way oil are you using?

Basically what else do I need to purchase for the machine to get it up and running. I'm not talking about the machinist level or floor bolts or electrical hook ups. I have all the tooling and inserts I need (I'm a tool and Die Maker)

What isn't included with the machine that you found that you needed to start making chips?

I think all of your questions will be answered here.

RE the oil. No it does not come with it. A word of caution though. Be prepared to thoroughly clean the headstock. Myself, along with other new owners, have found them to have a considerable amount of machining swarf left over by the factory. I spent almost an hour with my telescoping magnet, varsol and a 3/8" hose duct taped to my shop vac to get it clean. Same after the initial run-in but not nearly as bad as when it was opened up for the first time.

Hope this was of some help.

Dale
 
I already downloaded the owners manual and have been going thru it.
 
I already downloaded the owners manual and have been going thru it.

Charly,

Here are some things that might help you I have had mine for 2 or so years now. Here are the things other people told me and I came up with on my own. The machine needed quite a bit of cleaning both on the inside and out! Be careful when you clean the outside painted surfaces, the paint was pretty fresh on mine, and will come off if you are not really careful! I put a 3/8" 45 deg, pipe nipple on the headstock gearbox drain right out of the gate! When you get it you will see what I mean, it is hard to get a funnel under there while draining! I have a HF suction tank and I used that last time to drain it and vacuum particles out of the gear case. I am using AW 68 hydraulic oil in both my headstock, and apron with good luck. Some guys are running AW 100 in the headstock, and AW 68 in the apron, in Oregon the temperatures are pretty mild here 9 month's out of the year. I also added a large, about 3" round magnet to the RH lower corner of the headstock gearcase. I think one off the HF welding magnet, or there cheap SS parts tray. I also used epoxy to glue a small magnet, from a pin type screwdriver, to the appron drain plug.

You can see on here some people are posting about the power punch moly gearbox additive, I would not use it on the first (Clean Out) run in, but I did use it on the Headstock oil change I just did this Saturday, used about 8oz, or 1/2 the 16 oz bottle. Really made those straight cut gears run smooth, and quite! When they send you the square tee wrench if they do, it fits nothing on the these newer g4003g machines, unless they have changed the book it will still show a square bolt on the carriage lock and your will be a allen, I changed that on mine by taking a rod coupler and cutting it in half, that way I could use a 13mm wrench that stays on my carriage lock bolt, way handier than hunting for the allen wrench all the time. I installed a hour meter right after break in, thought it was a good idea. Be careful with the GIT type ball oilers the plastic bottle that came with the machine would not work! I would say only use a point oiler with a Brass end on it, I had the ball pop out of one under warranty, so Griz sent me another one, but I think they are brass and forcing a steel nozzle point in there enlarged the hole and that’s why it popped out!


Bob in Oregon
 
Sorry missed a couple of things, when you install the chip pan between the lathe and the bases I suggest you used some sealer to prevent oil, or coolant seeping! I did this, because this will probably be the only time you can, unless something major happens, and you were to take it off the bases for some reason!

I think it was on my facing plate, the D1-5 camlocks, were not tapped deep enough! Sounds simple enough, but the tap is a very,very,very fine metric, so first looked at the home shop, then at work, with 3 lista bins full of taps! No luck ordered it from Hall Tool here in Portland, then after I used It put it in the lathe toolbox with the lathe so I had it!

One more thing I haven't heard anybody else tell me this but just so you know, my machine was on order for 3 months, so when it got here we couldn't wait to get it running and play, we did the break in in all gears forward and reverse straight thru, not sure that was a great idea because in the end the electric motor was puffing some smoke out of it! We took pictures, and Kudos to Griz they sent us a new motor right away, the next morning we ran the motor and it was still running but I did not trust it, may have been just a bad motor or? I think now I might take a break when first running the machine in! Just my 2 cents. Bob

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One more mod I did right out of the gate was to hole saw a hole in the side of the change gear cover, I wanted to be able to lube these gears without the hastle of taking the whole side cover off! I then took a knob (Reid Supply great place for knobs and belts), and attached it to a electrical conduit KO plug, you know the kind of plug, when you knock the wrong KO out, and need to cover it for the electrical inspector! I am using the dry teflon lube, and do not see any wear after 268 hours, you do have to be a little careful here, because the motor drive belts run in this same cover, so you don't want too much lube throwing out on the belts! When I replace the belts, I am going to make a sheet metal divider piece on my brake, so any lube will not be able to get over on the belts!! Bob in Oregon

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I'm liking these replys. Lot's of qreat answers and info from you guys. Thanks a lot for all your assistance.

If you think of anything else, please respond.

Thanks again guys

Charles
 
I'm liking these replys. Lot's of qreat answers and info from you guys. Thanks a lot for all your assistance.

If you think of anything else, please respond.

Thanks again guys

Charles

Charles,

I was just wondering did they have the taper attachment in stock? When I bought mine they did not have that attachment to buy, they cam out with it about 8 month's after I recieved my lathe. Every time I look on the website it is back ordered! I am ver interested when you get yours what you think of it, I am torn between building my own setup or spending the big $$ for the Grizzly OEM setup?

Take Care Bob in Oregon
 
Yes, I ordered the taper attachment, but it won't be in until late August.

I went to the Springfield, MO showroom to pick up my lathe today. Great experience and the warehouse forklift operator really knows his stuff, loaded me up quick and exactly the way I wanted.

If the wife hadn't been with me, I would have looked around the showroom some more. Got home and all the oils and the level I ordered were sitting in the garage waiting for me. (My UPS Driver is pretty cool)

Saturday is unloading and cleanup day.
 
Yes, I ordered the taper attachment, but it won't be in until late August.

I went to the Springfield, MO showroom to pick up my lathe today. Great experience and the warehouse forklift operator really knows his stuff, loaded me up quick and exactly the way I wanted.

If the wife hadn't been with me, I would have looked around the showroom some more. Got home and all the oils and the level I ordered were sitting in the garage waiting for me. (My UPS Driver is pretty cool)

Saturday is unloading and cleanup day.

Thanks for letting me know on the taper attachment! Glad you got your lathe, I remember when I first got mine, for the price these lathes are great! Again like I said in another post be CAREFUL around the paint, when doing the clean up! Mine was real fresh, and I took a little off, on the tread shift levers in front! I was using petrolem based cleaner, I see in the manual Grizzly lists the orenge based cleaner, probably close to like ZEP ID Orange?

Enjoy Bob in Oregon

One more thing, I was wondering if anyone has found a good touch up paint for these machines? I am almost completely color blind, so it's hard for me to match colors! Its a real pain, The op manual lists epoxy paint, on these for paint, My GF says the krylon almond matches pretty good, but who would I be to tell if it does! If it does match, I was kind of running it thru my head, if the appliance, almond epoxy might also be close, you also can get that, it in the small brush type touch up bottles? Thanks
 
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