Acra Milling Machine

grantj

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Hi all,

Any experience with the newer Acra brand Bridgeport clones? Most of the posts I can find about them are all about machines from the '90s.

They are Taiwanese made, and look like they come with some decent features on the base mill.
http://acramachinery.com/Manual_Machines/AM2.htm

I'm thinking about getting the Step Pulley and adding a VFD later. I'd like to hear a second opinion, but I don't think I'll notice much of a loss from going with their 2HP motor instead of a 3HP. From what I've read, higher HP on a manual mill, will only ever be noticed with large face mills or large diameter drills. I typically don't use either.



I'm leaning towards the Acra right now because it seems to be a good quality (for import) mill and they have a company in California that I could get parts from if needed.

The other mills I was looking at Birmingham's 9x49 and the PM935 and PM945V.

I don't have much to go off of, but for Birmingham, I've read some complaints about their lathes, that make me not trust them as much.

As for the PM stuff, the 935 is priced right, but I feel I'd miss the extra table and travel eventually and the 945 is just pushing what I want to spend right now.


I don't need any options with the equipment. I have a DRO and scales and a power feed from a RF45 that I will be upgrading from. I'm also not really interested in older mills. My income is supplemented by the work I do on my benchtop mill. I want to get the the new mill in my shop and up and running as soon as possible so I can sell the RF45. I live in NE Texas and the used equipment market is not booming, but old BP's are over-priced and hobby stuff sells quick.
 
The older Acra machines are spoken well of. Not sure about new ones. You might have some real issues with moving the DRO scales and power feed from the RF45 to the Acra.
 
Acra has many models, I purchased their LCM-42. It is from the same production facility that produces the Sharp knee mill. Very high quality machine, and works very well. I went with the digital VFD head, it is very quiet other than the motor blower running all the time. I put the blower on a timer. Went with Align drives. If you have any questions you can PM me or call.

Although I usually build my own VFD systems, in my opinion it is not worth the small price difference vs. the factory installed VFD. The parts alone would have been about the cost difference. The motor is a VFD rated inverter drive, so 20-200Hz, it uses a Yaskawa VFD drive, there are 0 issues as far as performance.

I would contact Acra directly and speak to Tom, if you are interested in their mills.

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Why would someone want to flake the top of a mill table, beyond decorative, or perhaps trying to hide some sins?
 
Yes, Bob, I am sure they wasted many hours of labor time to "hide some sins". I would have gotten a grizzly mill if that was the case. I guess because the Acra/Sharp mills are made this way, they all have been doing it for decades to waste money. This is one of the smoothest operating mills I have ever used, and the quality of the fit and finish is about as good as it gets in this class of machine. But to each their own, I am just addressing the original posters questions, and that I would highly recommend this mill.
 
Thanks mksj. From everything I've read, they seem like solid machines that just work and owners use them for years.

I'll call the company on Monday.

A full BP style mill shouldn't have any trouble fitting in a normal 2 car garage?
 
Yes, Bob, I am sure they wasted many hours of labor time to "hide some sins". I would have gotten a grizzly mill if that was the case. I guess because the Acra/Sharp mills are made this way, they all have been doing it for decades to waste money. This is one of the smoothest operating mills I have ever used, and the quality of the fit and finish is about as good as it gets in this class of machine. But to each their own, I am just addressing the original posters questions, and that I would highly recommend this mill.
So, the flaking was from the factory? That is unusual. It is seen a lot on "reconditioned" mills. I have nothing against those mills, they are highly regarded...
 
Those are beautiful mills. I have seen one in person and it was a really nice machine.
 
The only one I have seen in person is Tom Lipton's (OxTools), and his is beautiful, Meehanite castings, nicely finished. It appears to be the equal of any Bridgeport...
 
The only one I have seen in person is Tom Lipton's (OxTools), and his is beautiful, Meehanite castings, nicely finished. It appears to be the equal of any Bridgeport...

I have seen a few BP clones taken apart, including a Sharp and an Acra, nice machines, but when you look on the knee cavity where the table sits, I believe this is called the "dog bone" you notice instantly compared to a BP the lack of mass and material on the imports. Not a deal killer but not as well supported IMO. A friend of mine was shocked when he bought a Sharp new to CNC 10 years ago, the difference between it and his BP was pretty obvious once the table was off.
 
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