VN Ugly dog- did U ever make a VN overarm support?

[Uglydog]

Brockwood,
Apology accepted.

HM is a place for all of us to learn and those with knowledge and experience to patiently teach if they choose.
I started here several years ago confused about which end of the yardstick was the handle. Through the patient teaching and redirection of many here I've learned to do some cools stuff and had a really good time.
I have much to learn. Heaps.
I certainly don't want you or anyone to be silent. However, we do need to be careful to nurture new members, as we all tend to be a little fragile when in learning mode.
Even if I may not be offended, others might read a post and be afraid to ask questions as they fear ridicule.
While I am not a moderator, I look forward to your active participation.

Daryl
MN

 

[Uglydog]

Brockwood,
Apology accepted.
I hope you continue to be very active on HM.
When I started I didn't know which end of the yardstick was the handle. While I'm still puzzled on that one, there are many things I've learned thanks to the patient generosity of HM members who tolerate poorly worded questions. I have heaps more to learn. Regardless I've had huge fun and learned much.

Current and future members will judge HM and me by what we post. New members and those just lurking will wonder if this is a safe place to ask what might be an obvious question about how to do something safely and effectively. HM might be one of the last refuges for those who hope to make or repair something instead of sending it to landfill and buying a cheap replacement.

Please don't go into silent mode. However, make sure that posts tend toward positive encouragement and gentle redirection.
The wide range of experiences and perspectives makes this a fun place to problem solve, learn and teach. Please be part of what makes HM and our world a better place to raise our kids and the next generation of HM members.

Sorry for the babble.

Daryl
MN

 

[Uglydog]

So, in hopes that the reality might be recorded, I grabbed my most accurate measuring device, a screwdriver to hold it flat & a camera oh & a pencil to click the pic with my teeth. 9 3/16" roughly speaking. Is this in the same ballpark - within a 1/16"?View attachment 234881

Brockwood,
Is that an aluminum support in your pic?
I've seen an aluminum support for a VN16 which looks very similar in shape and design.
The supports I have are cast.

Daryl
MN

 

[BROCKWOOD]

Thank you for your kind replies Daryl. Yes, supports are aluminum. Made in 59. I'll check to see if my calipers are long enough or add gauge blocks to get an accurate reading on the center to center distance. Living is learning!

 

[Reeltor]

Brockwood,
Is that an aluminum support in your pic?
I've seen an aluminum support for a VN16 which looks very similar in shape and design.
The supports I have are cast.

Daryl
MN

The supports that I have for my VN22L are aluminum. At one point in their life one was split and bubble gum welded back together. Are some standard supports really cast iron?

 

[BROCKWOOD]

I doubt there was any aluminum during WW II - then again I guess they would have all been for war production anyway. Any chance we could see the weld, curious of where it split. I would prefer to avoid the split all together.

 

[BROCKWOOD]

With the help of my wife, I had 4 hands & could finally get a repeatable measure between centers. 9.166". Talking out the solution to how to tackle this turned on the idea light bulb. Any ideas of a better way to measure this, realizing, of course that I am in no way as equipped as Tom of OxTools You Tube fame, are completely welcome. In case the pic is not clear enough: Small Diameter = 0.720", Large Diameter = 3.480", Center to Center = 9.166". If not for my wife holding the socket & spacer on the 1 side, I don't know how I could have gotten this far.

 

[Reeltor]

I doubt there was any aluminum during WW II - then again I guess they would have all been for war production anyway. Any chance we could see the weld, curious of where it split. I would prefer to avoid the split all together.

I'll try to get some photos in the next day or so showing the break. I assume that whoever broke the support didn't understand the 3 set screws. The center screw separates the split line so you can remove it from the support arm. I think someone just turned the center screw beyond the support's yield point.

 

[Reeltor]

Photos of repair as requested, I don't think you can build one without the split line. You would have a hard time getting it on/off and adjusting the ("B") support where you need it on the arbor.
Good luck and post some photos.

 

[Uglydog]

I'll take some pics some different ways to measure hole location. I'm sure that others here at HM can come up with others. I'll do that today or tomorrow.

Even when I finally get around to pouring one of my concerns is will people be able to bore them. Will then have and know how to set up, locate and use a boring head.
Perhaps carefully written specs and possibly a video will be helpful.

Daryl
MN