7000lb Monarch In Cleveland Ohio

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Hello, I just put a bid on a 1944 26"X40" 7000lb lathe.

I am brand new to machining and have definitely never moved something of this magnitude.

I need advice and definitely will need experienced help to move this from Cleveland to North Canton Ohio and get it in its final position as it will never move again LOL.

Thank you all for any advice or help you can offer.
 
As to moving it from Cleveland to North Canton, speak to the seller, they look to be professionals. I would expect they have riggers that (for money) will move it and spot it where you want it.
 
As to moving it from Cleveland to North Canton, speak to the seller, they look to be professionals. I would expect they have riggers that (for money) will move it and spot it where you want it.

From what there site says they have contracts with freight movers but I'm sure it's at a premium...they will put it on a trailer or truck for free but that's about it
 
I guess the first question is what equipment do you have available? Tow vehicle and heavy trailer or heavy flat bed truck. Forklift? Heavy boom truck?
 
I don't think I can put 7000 on the trailer I have access to.

I may be able to get a crane truck from work, but that wouldn't get it in the garage.
 
If you have a 3/4 ton or larger truck, you can rent a 10,000 lb drop deck trailer. Around here they go for about $55/day. I've moved a lot of equipment on them. That gets you to floor level. Then you can rent some machinery skates and roll it into position. I don't know what your experience is, but moving heavy machinery can be very dangerous and most machines are top heavy. Plan every move before you make it, think about the ways things could go wrong and plan for that, and never allow any part of your body to be in a position to get trapped if things go awry. Don't work alone!

The other option is to hire a machinery mover and say ''I want it sitting right there'';)
 
As much as it sounds lazy, if I can't get confident that I can do it I will hire it done lol
 
Weight as listed is 6,090 lbs. A car hauler capable of handling a 10,000 load is what I have used to move up to 8,000 lbs. Should have a metal deck, and you will need proper rigging. This means chains from the back, straps from the front. That's a mistake I see everywhere, from people moving riding lawnmowers, to just junk on a trailer. The use chains on the front, and a comealong on the back. That's exactly backwards. Since the most abrupt change in forces would probably be a front collision, the load will want to shift forward. So it makes sense to use the most secure anchor method from the back. A chain, no boomers (load binders, etc.) at all. Just a chain shortened up to where it needs to be. Then all the securing force should come from the front and sides. The front primarily because you are most unlikely to out accelerate the load and cause it to shift backwards, and the odds of someone hitting you from the back are minimal, given you will have reduced braking and the following vehicle should be a friend in an escort vehicle keeping some safe distance and watching for your braking anyway. So your ratchet straps, boomers, comealongs.....etc, all should come from the direction you will be pulling against the strong link.....the rear chain. I live in oilfield country, as well as timber hauling country. I have loaded out many tons of material and equipment. I also have observed the way and why things are done a particular way. Think through the forces involved in a static position, then imagine all the dynamics as they possibly could come into play in different situations. It pays to think of the impossible. And then prepare for it. If you do that, you should have a boring, uneventful ride. Then the nerves come into play as you work to pick and place the load. Think ahead....never behind and wish you had done things different. People get killed too often by not thinking ahead.

For this load, a 10k forklift would be my choice, but only if it will fit in the building. It can be surprising how small some warehouse tired lifts can be and yet be rated very high. Don't let the size fool you. Go by the ratings. If necessary, that machine could be lowered onto skates and pushed/pulled into position with a smaller lift, if you can't get a small heavy lift machine. Bear in mind also that a standard garage floor isn't designed for this load. It's common enough to consider cutting out a section of your current floor and pouring something a bit heavier. You would be better off doing that than dealing with a broken slab later.

There's much to be considered when you move up to this class of machine. I have no idea of what you intend to make on this machine, but I have to question it's suitability as a first lathe. Do you have, or are you willing to bring in sufficient power to run this machine? Do your plans include eventually acquiring a properly sized mill so that you can offer complete projects? A lot lathe work has some mill work on it somewhere, and to do business, you have to offer the complete package if you hope to get that kind of work.
 
Weight as listed is 6,090 lbs. A car hauler capable of handling a 10,000 load is what I have used to move up to 8,000 lbs. Should have a metal deck, and you will need proper rigging. This means chains from the back, straps from the front. That's a mistake I see everywhere, from people moving riding lawnmowers, to just junk on a trailer. The use chains on the front, and a comealong on the back. That's exactly backwards. Since the most abrupt change in forces would probably be a front collision, the load will want to shift forward. So it makes sense to use the most secure anchor method from the back. A chain, no boomers (load binders, etc.) at all. Just a chain shortened up to where it needs to be. Then all the securing force should come from the front and sides. The front primarily because you are most unlikely to out accelerate the load and cause it to shift backwards, and the odds of someone hitting you from the back are minimal, given you will have reduced braking and the following vehicle should be a friend in an escort vehicle keeping some safe distance and watching for your braking anyway. So your ratchet straps, boomers, comealongs.....etc, all should come from the direction you will be pulling against the strong link.....the rear chain. I live in oilfield country, as well as timber hauling country. I have loaded out many tons of material and equipment. I also have observed the way and why things are done a particular way. Think through the forces involved in a static position, then imagine all the dynamics as they possibly could come into play in different situations. It pays to think of the impossible. And then prepare for it. If you do that, you should have a boring, uneventful ride. Then the nerves come into play as you work to pick and place the load. Think ahead....never behind and wish you had done things different. People get killed too often by not thinking ahead.

For this load, a 10k forklift would be my choice, but only if it will fit in the building. It can be surprising how small some warehouse tired lifts can be and yet be rated very high. Don't let the size fool you. Go by the ratings. If necessary, that machine could be lowered onto skates and pushed/pulled into position with a smaller lift, if you can't get a small heavy lift machine. Bear in mind also that a standard garage floor isn't designed for this load. It's common enough to consider cutting out a section of your current floor and pouring something a bit heavier. You would be better off doing that than dealing with a broken slab later.

There's much to be considered when you move up to this class of machine. I have no idea of what you intend to make on this machine, but I have to question it's suitability as a first lathe. Do you have, or are you willing to bring in sufficient power to run this machine? Do your plans include eventually acquiring a properly sized mill so that you can offer complete projects? A lot lathe work has some mill work on it somewhere, and to do business, you have to offer the complete package if you hope to get that kind of work.
First, thank you for your detailed response, as for the size, it is much bigger than I need, however I found it can possibly be had for -$1000 so I can't really pass on it, or can I?
 
Yup I would seriously think about how much lathe you really need. Also consider what it will take to meet the power requirements. It might be a great deal but if it's much more lathe than you'll ever use and it's gonna take much $$ to move it and get it running, you might be better off finding something more manageable...
 
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