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As I'm sure everyone knows from other threads, I had a Cincinnati 1B follow me home a few weeks back. It started with me finding a very poorly written Craigslist ad, listed as a Verticle end mill, for a 20 yr old Enco with essentially no time on it. The seller turned down my generous offer of about half what he was asking. From there, somehow that idea morphed to a Bridgeport as the way to go. But as anyone that knows me can attest, "normal" avoids me. Every car, every piece of equipment ends up being obscure or unusual. I was looking at options of "importing" a BP/clone from the rust belt when this Cincy showed up on Craigslist one Friday night. As Someone said in another thread, be patient, have your money right, and be ready to jump. I walked in with cash.
Here is the new child Sunday afternoon waiting patiently on the trailer for a friend of a friend to show up with a boom truck.
And here she is Monday night just before the rain storms under motive power of a HF engine crane after said boom truck didn't show.
I'm still slowly cleaning out the barn f the late father-in-law's "collection" so there was and will be a lot of dig and backfill as areas are opened and repurposed. It's going to be a while before I have purdy pictures.
Via the intense negotiating and horse trading, I ended up with a package that included.
A Toolmaster 1B with power table. 2ph that has been converted
18 C flex collets from 3/8 to 1", with some duplicates
8 A flex collets from 1/8 to 1/2
2 C end mill holders, 1/2 and 3/4
1 A to C adapter
3 B&S taper collets, of which one is really a 3MT (!!)
1 2" Kennametal boring head
12 various end mills
A 6" mill vise that is pretty beat.
A 10" rotary table, again is "well used"
A 3hp RPC, aka the fire starter.
And a bunch of odds and ends that had no market value by themselves. A partial hold down kit, straight shank end mill holders, a small drill chuck; stuff.
Several of the items, notable the vise, rotary table, and RPC, are in a condition that made them unmarketable as a stand-alone. But it gave me a starting point. The RPC was a necessary evil. As much as I consider them bad magic, I figured that with two separate 3ph motors a VFD was out of the question, so the RPC was brought back to life.
This is AFTER I repaired a bunch of bad connections at the capacitors and ground lug. The contactor chatters like crazy. And the motor bearings are shot. It's a noisy piece. Really noisy. But necessary, so it's running with plans for a full rebuild. Then it hit me. The table motor isn't switched off and on like other mills. It runs full time with a clutch/dog engagement for the table. I should be able to feed both motors (1hp and 1/4hp) from the same VFD. But no, I thought. That won't work. Changing the spindle speed will also affect the table. Finally the DUH settled in; if table speed is important lock the VFD to 60hz and change the belt speed; just as you have to do with a RPC. The Huan Yang has been ordered.
In addition to the stuff included, eBay has provided more end mills, parallels, 1-2-3 blocks, angles, and on. I don't see an end to it soon, either. The goal here is not to restore the machine. The goal is to make things, and rebuild/buy the machines and tooling as needed to reach the accuracy needed. I have a lot to learn, a lot to digest, a lot to prioritize, and surely a lot of questions.
Has anyone put a DRO on a toolmaster? I'm in the planning stages of that. Every picture I can find shows the X scale clumsily mounted on the front of the table in and amongst the power table controls. I'm thinking that it could fit better on the back of the table, maybe requiring a tweak to the saddle stop.
Here is the new child Sunday afternoon waiting patiently on the trailer for a friend of a friend to show up with a boom truck.
And here she is Monday night just before the rain storms under motive power of a HF engine crane after said boom truck didn't show.
I'm still slowly cleaning out the barn f the late father-in-law's "collection" so there was and will be a lot of dig and backfill as areas are opened and repurposed. It's going to be a while before I have purdy pictures.
Via the intense negotiating and horse trading, I ended up with a package that included.
A Toolmaster 1B with power table. 2ph that has been converted
18 C flex collets from 3/8 to 1", with some duplicates
8 A flex collets from 1/8 to 1/2
2 C end mill holders, 1/2 and 3/4
1 A to C adapter
3 B&S taper collets, of which one is really a 3MT (!!)
1 2" Kennametal boring head
12 various end mills
A 6" mill vise that is pretty beat.
A 10" rotary table, again is "well used"
A 3hp RPC, aka the fire starter.
And a bunch of odds and ends that had no market value by themselves. A partial hold down kit, straight shank end mill holders, a small drill chuck; stuff.
Several of the items, notable the vise, rotary table, and RPC, are in a condition that made them unmarketable as a stand-alone. But it gave me a starting point. The RPC was a necessary evil. As much as I consider them bad magic, I figured that with two separate 3ph motors a VFD was out of the question, so the RPC was brought back to life.
This is AFTER I repaired a bunch of bad connections at the capacitors and ground lug. The contactor chatters like crazy. And the motor bearings are shot. It's a noisy piece. Really noisy. But necessary, so it's running with plans for a full rebuild. Then it hit me. The table motor isn't switched off and on like other mills. It runs full time with a clutch/dog engagement for the table. I should be able to feed both motors (1hp and 1/4hp) from the same VFD. But no, I thought. That won't work. Changing the spindle speed will also affect the table. Finally the DUH settled in; if table speed is important lock the VFD to 60hz and change the belt speed; just as you have to do with a RPC. The Huan Yang has been ordered.
In addition to the stuff included, eBay has provided more end mills, parallels, 1-2-3 blocks, angles, and on. I don't see an end to it soon, either. The goal here is not to restore the machine. The goal is to make things, and rebuild/buy the machines and tooling as needed to reach the accuracy needed. I have a lot to learn, a lot to digest, a lot to prioritize, and surely a lot of questions.
Has anyone put a DRO on a toolmaster? I'm in the planning stages of that. Every picture I can find shows the X scale clumsily mounted on the front of the table in and amongst the power table controls. I'm thinking that it could fit better on the back of the table, maybe requiring a tweak to the saddle stop.