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WHY isn't there a specific item about EMCO , SCHAUBLIN , WEILER , OPTIMUM , LEINEN , and other Swiss / German / French / Dutch - machines???
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I did put an article in the watchmakers forum on an old very unique Andre Beechler pinion cutting machine(Swiss) but didn't get many replies to it---maybe this thread will draw out more of these brands from different countries--I have two French engravers I will get some pictures of and I encourage other members to submit their machine photos also--I know that there is a lot of good quality workmanship in them, and members will enjoy hearing about and seeing them.----Dave
 

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H i all,
WHY isn't there a specific item about EMCO , SCHAUBLIN , WEILER , OPTIMUM , LEINEN , and other Swiss / German / French / Dutch - machines???
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Dont want to do that, you'll end up with those "Deckel FP1" types, oh no ! :whiteflag:

Mike Young (Maho owner and proud to be one ! )
 

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Re: EMCO , SCHAUBLIN , WEILER , OPTIMUM , LEINEN , and other Swiss / German / French / Dutch - machi

H i all,
WHY isn't there a specific item about EMCO , SCHAUBLIN , WEILER , OPTIMUM , LEINEN , and other Swiss / German / French / Dutch - machines???
Regards,

This is a new category in the Forum that was created after a member asked management a couple of weeks ago. Give it some time please. Maybe you can start out with some info on your machines with pictures?

Thanks :thumbsup: Rich
 

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Hi Dave, Mike , Rich,
I guess I had almost missed it. (And don't worry Mike, I haven't got a Deckel , though a fine SO to grind cutters would be nice to have.)
I hope people will find these pages! Pictures must be somewhere, have to search...
About the Andre Beechler pinion cutting machine(Swiss), these are rather rare I think. Maybe once or twice a year there's something mentioned about these machines, even on the French, Swiss and German ebay they are very rare to be seen or even a part of them. Watch and clockmakers have their own networks, there should be some users there.
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Max

This is a new category in the Forum that was created after a member asked management a couple of weeks ago. Give it some time please. Maybe you can start out with some info on your machines with pictures?

Thanks :thumbsup: Rich
 

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Here are some pictures of one of my French engravers---maybe other members have one all restored and using it. enjoy---Dave Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 023.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 015.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 016.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 017.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 018.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 019.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 020.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 021.jpg Davids machine pics 6-30-2013 022.jpg

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So that Scripta is made along the same lines as the numerous Gorton pantographs then?

2D or 3D?

Ken--I don't know what the Gorton machines look like--maybe someone else can relate on the differences if any. as you can see clearly I haven't got it cleaned up and in operation. I bought it at an Amish auction and thought I could make me a sturdy small vertical mill out of it--just haven't got it in my new shop yet to see the possibilities of it. --Dave--*ps --if you come down to my area then be sure to bring lots of cash--and a very big truck ------- just kidding:roflmao:
 

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Dont want to do that, you'll end up with those "Deckel FP1" types, oh no ! :whiteflag:

Mike Young (Maho owner and proud to be one ! )
What's a Maho?

Maurice in Utah and fondling his FP1
 

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To see Mahos,google Tony Griffiths Engineering and go to his site. He lists hundreds of machines with pictures,details,histories,etc. A huge wealth of all kinds of machines,and the largest resource I know of.
 

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What's a Maho?

Maurice in Utah and fondling his FP1
Oh, you tease - or is it troll?

Maybe I should posts about my 1966 FP2? :thumbsup:

Anywho, Maho and Deckel are close cousins, so it's all in the family.

I think I'll make a few post about some of the lathes I've had (EMCO Super11, a Boley 5LZ and two Weilers, LZD220 and Primus).

Not that I used them really, but I've had them so I'm entitled to an opinion, hehe.

Cheers
Erik
 
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Just purchased an Optimum F30 mill at auction. Have been successful running the 400V, 50HZ, 3 phase motor on 440V, 60HZ, 3 phase power for 2 hours. Does anyone have experience running this motor setup for a long period of time? (6 months or more).

Also does anyone know the wiring diagram? I have an english manual but the there is no electrical diagram. The place I purchased the mill had a french manual with the electrical diagram but they kept the french manual because they still had another machine.

Found a website for lots of European machine manuals.
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=547fe296ecfd561f&id=547FE296ECFD561F!588
Most manuals are in the native language of the builder but some are English. The Optimum is made in Germany but the manual I found is French.

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I have a Deckel fp1,but to tell the truth,I am so used to my Bridgeport type,I use it all the time,though no doubt the fp1 is a better machine.
 

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I have an Emcomat 17s lathe. I have it wired to a vfd, I removed the brake from the motor so all the motor control is done through the vfd. It's a nice lathe to use although the only things I have to compare it to are the old Colchester roundhead student and a myford 7 I used in metalwork classes as a schoolkid. I'm not a professional machinist so make things up as I go along. I think I will be making a thread dial indicator for it one day but at the moment it's easy enough to keep the halfnuts engaged and just reverse it using the remote pod for the vfd. I haven't seen so many of these about which is strange as they get used in training establishments quite a bit. It's an ex college machine so hasn't been flogged to death but it has obviously had a few clumsy buggers at the controls as it has had a few knocks here and there. I've had it for a couple of years now and overall i'm very pleased with it.

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Wow you are one lucky guy! I would gladly trade my left half-nut for such a fine machine. LOL I believe they are still making those too- $$$
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Don't believe the hype , it's a decent lathe but leaves me a bit cold compared to older more curvy machines. I know the looks and character of a machine have nothing to do with its accuracy but sometimes food for the soul is almost as important to me. (that's if markba633csi was referring to my post)
 

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Oh really? I'm surprised to hear you say that- I think I understand what you mean though- It doesn't have quite the same character of something like a Myford or South Bend- or even a Harrison for example
Mark Silva
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