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So I have to ask. Why did you decide to re-paint the machine?
I'm just curious if you simply didn't like the color or?
 

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So I have to ask. Why did you decide to re-paint the machine?
I'm just curious if you simply didn't like the color or?
That's a good question and one that I have asked myself quite a few times in the past few days. :grin:

There are multiple reasons. The previous owner had repainted it blue long ago. He did it with a brush without disassembling or taping anything. I've spent my entire life in the body shop so that sort of thing just bugs the crap out of me. I knew that I was always going to look at it and wish I had repainted it if I did not so I just dove in. I realize this next statement is not going to make sense to many but I much prefer my machines or whatever to be pleasing to my eye. Performance of the machine is essential but I want my things to look good and to look well cared for. That was not the case with this mill so I had to fix it.
 

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On the Rung Fo bases I have seen and helped re-scrape the 4 pads that sit on the top of cabinet are way off. One I believe was .011" high when we set it on a granite surface plate. So if the cabinet is flat and when you tighten the hold down bolts the base twisted. I get a bit anal sometime when it goes to accuracy. The machine is not a Bridgeport or Moore, so maybe it's OK as far as accuracy goes.

By chance do you have a surface plate? If not, don't worry about it. I just again looked at the pictures and when you set the base on the cabinet shim under the 4 corners so they all hit on what ever cabinet you set it on. so when you tighten the 4 bolts it doesn't twist.

I could get into precision ways to improve this by using 3 points, etc, etc. Sometimes hard to help of teach if you don't have the equipment to do so. So just give it a try and if it works good, use it. Rich
 

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I've been crazy busy, but here's what the book says about repairing the table. Richard seems to be an expert in restoring machines, so if he disagrees, it might be good to listen to him. I'm a noob and haven't tried this. :)
 

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Terry and I have been private messaging about similar repairs. I told him we needed to make it public. I recommended using Devcon Aluminum as you will never know it's there compared to a steel mixture. Terry said he is doing a procedure with pic's that I think he will add on here soon.
 

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Terry and I have been private messaging about similar repairs. I told him we needed to make it public. I recommended using Devcon Aluminum as you will never know it's there compared to a steel mixture. Terry said he is doing a procedure with pic's that I think he will add on here soon.
I'll look forward to reading it then! Thanks for contributing your knowledge!
 

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I'll look forward to reading it then! Thanks for contributing your knowledge!
I'm planning on working on the top while it's off the base. Will finish the paint on the base and then tackle the top. I was strategically not saying much about it on the open forum just in case it went totally wrong I didn't have to explain how I jacked it up. lol...
 

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I'm planning on working on the top while it's off the base. Will finish the paint on the base and then tackle the top. I was strategically not saying much about it on the open forum just in case it went totally wrong I didn't have to explain how I jacked it up. lol...
Now where's the fun (for us) in that?!? :)
 

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Now where's the fun (for us) in that?!? :)
lol... I can usually look stupid enough on accident. No need to do it on purpose.
 

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Very nice mill. You made a great deal. I have an RF 30 that I replaced a 6" straight vise with a 4 inch swivel vise, am glad I did it. When I raise or lower the milling head I find it easier to work the crank from the rear of the machine when raising the head. perhaps a body building class is in order. You will get a lot of good use from your mill and a lot of satisfaction from making tools and parts.
Have a good day
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Very nice mill. You made a great deal. I have an RF 30 that I replaced a 6" straight vise with a 4 inch swivel vise, am glad I did it. When I raise or lower the milling head I find it easier to work the crank from the rear of the machine when raising the head. perhaps a body building class is in order. You will get a lot of good use from your mill and a lot of satisfaction from making tools and parts.
Have a good day
Ray
Thanks Ray. I'll be glad to actually use it instead of working on it but I think it'll be worth it in the end.
 

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It's my birthday today so I cheated and took off work a little early to work on the mill. Some days it's good to be the king. lol... I was determined to get it painted tonight as my completely selfish present to myself. Began with sanding the primer I put on it last night. Then another round of priming and spot putty, more sanding, re-priming a few spots, more sanding and scuff padding and washing and tacking and... sheesh... but finally the mill is green. Still some work ahead to get the vise, table ends and some other assorted parts and pieces painted but super glad to be this far. Fairly happy with the result. Suppose I could have sanded and primed a couple more times but decided that it was good enough. I do like the color and the Krylon hammered went on nice. Covered well. I did 4 coats. It's virtually the same as my Grizzly machines which is what I was hoping for.








 

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I have the same mill.
If you keep this up I may have to strip mine down and send it to you for a paint job.
Actually I love the work you are doing, you are more patient then I am.

I purchased mine used as well, and I use it as is.
I do intend to one day get around to a full strip down, cleaning, paint and DRO. but until then I'll just have to drool over how nice yours looks.
 

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I fixed my Bridgeport up, but didn't go this far. :) I decided I was going to make it dirty and beat up anyway so I didn't do paint, just cleaned and de-rusted various parts. This is looking nice!
 

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I fixed my Bridgeport up, but didn't go this far. :) I decided I was going to make it dirty and beat up anyway so I didn't do paint, just cleaned and de-rusted various parts. This is looking nice!
I would not have gone this far either if the original paint were even halfway intact. However the very messy brushed on blue I could not stand so here I am.
 

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Terry Had not been on much but just caught up on the thread. Looks nice, if you go with that ring light let us know how it works as I have the same mill and have been thinking about some kind of ring light for it. but what most of them have been using on the BP and clones do not seem like they would work on the ones like we have.
 

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Terry Had not been on much but just caught up on the thread. Looks nice, if you go with that ring light let us know how it works as I have the same mill and have been thinking about some kind of ring light for it. but what most of them have been using on the BP and clones do not seem like they would work on the ones like we have.
Thanks! I have the ring light ordered. I believe @mikey already has it on his RF-30 so it should work.
 

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Another round of finishing paint prep and painting. The table ends, vice pieces, few other odds and ends. There has certainly been some interesting taping on this project.



And after a few coats of my new favorite Deep green hammered.





I also started to reassemble what I can on the mill with new hardware. Also got it rewired to 240v. Gaining every day. Will finish reassembly tomorrow evening and then begin the table repair over the weekend. I counted the table penetrations. There are only 142 of them. :oops:





Bunch of new stainless fasteners always makes me smile. :grin:

 

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I'm REALLY liking that color. Must not disassemble mill... Must not disassemble mill....

Maybe next time I take it apart. :)
 

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Spent the afternoon with a bit more cleaning of the ways and such. Lots of lube and then reassembly. I'm quite pleased with the result. I also took some time to fab up the table covers per @Dave Paine from 1/4" UMHW sheet with a couple of white oak runners. Still have to deal with the table and make a new stand but so far so good.

















 
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And it even makes chips.

 

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The machine looks terrific. Very good work on the cleaning, sanding, filling and repainting. Looks almost like new. I do love the UHMW table protectors.
 

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The machine looks terrific. Very good work on the cleaning, sanding, filling and repainting. Looks almost like new. I do love the UHMW table protectors.
Thanks Dave! I love them too. Super easy and work great!
 

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And now this...



This is going to be an interesting project. I don't think anyone was thinking about adding a quill DRO when they designed the RF-30. lol... ;)

I have a plan. We'll see how it plays out.
 

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Just documenting the Z axis DRO install in the main thread. 6" iGauging DRO installed on the inside of a new front cover made form 2" aluminum angle with a ATP cover.



















 
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