Enco 405GX1500 Manual ???

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Hello all
I am new to the forum. I was just given an Enco 405GX1500 Looks to be in good shape, Other than at some point being tipped over onto its face. I have been desperately looking for a Manual for this machine. It looks to have most of what it came with steady and follow rest, 3 and 4 jaw chucks . It is shoved back into a corner, and I have no idea how long it has been there. If anyone has an Idea where I could source a Manual I would be great full. Also if any of you have a similar model lathe it would be great to talk to you.

The next task at hand, getting it out where I can really inspect it, build a skid and figure out how to ship it 1800 mile to my home. Any advise on that would also be helpful.
Thanks in advance, Mike
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Wow... Not even a hello, good luck with that.
From what I can tell it must not have been a big seller. But someone must know something about it. Not even MSC has anything on it when I told him it was from the 80's he said well we wouldn't have anything that old.
Bottom line it's a machine, I will be able to figure it out. But it sure would be nice to have some reference material.
 

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Try www.lathes.co.uk. You might have luck there. That's a big machine. Do you need something that big? 1800 miles is a long way.
 

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I was looking for a lathe about that size. I just happened to stumble across it in a storage building on the job site that I'm working at. I asked about it and they said get it out of here. So the price is right. It's nearly worthless as it is, but the only damage I can find is the carriage hand wheel, cross slide handle and the carriage stop brackets are broken and some minor cosmetic stuff.
I have, since my first post possibly found a way to get it shipped for free. The company I work for has trucks going back and forth to within ten miles of my house. So the cost may just be the material for the enclosed skid that I will build for it.
Thanks for the tip on a place to look for the manual. BTW I was just chatting with a friend in Cardiff. When I told him how far away from home I am working. He said "1800 miles would d be several countries away for me"
 

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Im still having no luck on finding a manual. I guess I will just have to wing it.
I hope to drag it out of the corner this weekend so I can get all the way around it, and build a skid to ship it. I will post a few more pictures when I get it out in the open. If anyone is interested.
 

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I'm interested, don't know how I missed your first post. Free lathe stories are always hot topics around here. It looks like one of the larger Encos that were made, but I've only seen manuals for a couple smaller models. I'm sure you will need 3-phase power for it- 5 horsepower or more?
Can't beat the price tho! Be careful moving it
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As I said hoping I will have some time tomorrow to drag it out. I may even have some help. Once I get it out in the open, I have a 5000 pound forklift I can use. I have an engine hoist that I will likely start with. I think I can see saw it up onto some cribbing then get some skates under it. I also have a pair of toe jacks, large pry bars all kinds of rigging. I think I'm set.
 

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Hello all
I finally managed the time to pull the old lathe out of the corner. I did notice after it was out that the chip pan is in the machine backwards. as you can see the name plate from the back side. Now it seems to be more clear the 405G x 1500 obviously millimeters, and the G is for Gap bed. Still no luck with the manual, but not giving up. Every time I go near the thing, I end up covered in sticky black filth. Really looking forward to getting it cleaned up.
For those that are interested, I will try to post pictures as I progress. Crating, shipping, cleanup, and repair.
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That's some chuck of iron for free! Wish I had the space for something that big (although some of our members would call that a baby)
If Grizzly makes a lathe that big you may find some parts that interchange like handles and gears, etc. I believe Precision Matthews also makes a 16" lathe so they might be able to help with parts also.
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Well its been more than a month since I have posted. I had some time today so I decided to do some more research. Minor progress, I think I figured out who made the lathe for Enco.
I knew the Lathe was made in Taiwan. so after an hour or so I found this picture. It is a Chien Yeh CY 405G x 1500 it appears that they also made a
CY 405G x 1000 I haven't given up yet. Also maybe a Chinese company has made its clone.
 

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Well I finally had some time today to put the base of the skid together. I stripped off a few parts for ease of crating. Coolant arm, splash pan the remaining covers at the tail stock end. Digging around in the chip pan, I found the missing cover for the sump. I plugged in the sump pump and it still works. I think I found all of the parts, That's encouraging. Thought I would post a few pictures if anyone is interested.
I will post more as I make progress. BTW The skid is oak and so far weighs about 300 pounds.
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Finally had some time to finish the crating. I fly home at the end of the month, I hope to have it waiting for me when I get there.
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Getting pretty close to shipping this beast home. It will be traveling in a refrigerated trailer. I was thinking of taking a sheet or two off of the crate to spray some of the surfaces down with WD 40 or something. It will likely sweat pretty bad when it hits the warm air after transport.
The other thing is getting it off of the trailer and in to the shop. I'm considering renting a forklift. Not sure how much that would cost for a day but it might be the easiest way to go.
I was also thinking of putting a beam up, well shored then backing the trailer under that then hoist the lathe off of the crate. If anyone has any great ideas feel free.
 

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Hey Mike, I was wondering how you were making out with that thing
I wouldn't worry too much about the rust, it can't get too bad in less than a month
Looks like a sturdy crate- not sure whether it's better to put vent holes or not as far as the "cold storage" issue
 

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Good to hear from you. Yes shouldn't be too bad, although it may sit like that for a week or two.
 

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Hell that's a super freebie , what'll it cost to get home a few hundred . I bet she cleans up and works well. Good luck lucky.
 

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Free trip form Kansas to Oregon, on a company truck. As its crated... Just guessing that it weighs about 3500 pounds. I built a box to put into the chip pan to fill with the Chucks, Rests and a bunch of other parts and pieces. Also thew in a pile of random material.
I never did check on a price to ship. I suspect it would have cost over $1000
 

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Should be a nice machine once cleaned up.
 

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Well good news. I got it shipped free of charge. And got it home today. It was quite a task.
Started to disassemble the few broken parts. For the most part it should be pretty easy to repair. As I see it now, the hardest piece will be the hand wheel for the carriage.
Don't tell my Wife that I have old lathe parts on her table.;)
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She will never know they were there. Hand wheel you might find a substitute on eBay or even craigslist. Good luck I think you'll enjoy the lathe.
 

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Good morning,
The problem I am finding is that the dial is mounted on the inboard side of the hand wheel. the bore is 62mm and a depth on 20mm . I can find the same size and offset but not enough material on the back side to machine for the dial location.
I may have to do a two piece to get it to work.
 

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I may have found a the descendents of my Enco.
I was shopping new knee mills. Sort of fond of the Acer. While on their site, decided to look at the lathes. They are not a clone of mine but the gear box layout is the same and many of the parts look to be the same as well.
If anyone here has an Acer 17G series I would be very happy to talk to you.
 

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Good afternoon. We'll as soon as I got the lathe in the garage. I decided to build a shed, I really needed to get my garage back. 10'x20' I decided would l work. So the garage is nearly cleaned out.
I have some parts, just need to do some machine work to get them on. I worked on the cross slide and compound. Every thing is nice and tite. The nuts look great, no wear. I'm thinking that I should pull the cross slide back off. I really need to take off the carriage to get it Cleaned up.
I'm trying to get most of the work out of the way before the electrical work is done. Sub panel ect.
I will try to remember to snap a few pictures, for those that are interested.
 
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