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This mill followed me home yesterday..
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There are no plates or markings with a manufacturer's name or type on it. Only feeds/speeds etc ( in english).
Can anyone tell me what make it is?
 

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looks like a van norman
 

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Thanks.
I don't think this is a Van Norman though. All pictures of Van Norman mills I've found show the manufacturers name in the casting of the ram. Mine does not.
 

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What's that plate at the end of the upper arm? It looks like it has a name on it. Hard to make out on your photo, but it looks like it might be "Spoenwegen"???

As for the mill itself, it looks like the bed will rotate, making it a "universal" type mill. Other than that, I don't have anything to add. Good luck identifying it!
 

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What's that plate at the end of the upper arm? It looks like it has a name on it. Hard to make out on your photo, but it looks like it might be "Spoenwegen"???

As for the mill itself, it looks like the bed will rotate, making it a "universal" type mill. Other than that, I don't have anything to add. Good luck identifying it!
Thanks for the info.

It says "Groenewegen werktuigmachines".
They are an (old) trading company based in Rotterdam (the Netherlands), not the manufacturer.
 

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amazes me, that a company can spend so much effort in making tools, and not be proud enough to put their name all over it.

Looks like it is a horizontal machine, with the extra universal type head. I would not be surprised to find out the head is made by another company. I see a lot of features of other machines, but nothing that stands out. I agree, it looks to have a universal table (means it can be turned or rotated ). Quite an interesting machine, I would love to see more pics as you get a chance.
 

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What collet design is the spindle set up for?
 

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What collet design is the spindle set up for?
I'm new to this type of tooling, but it looks something like sk40 in the column and sk30 in the universal type head?
 

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More clues?:

I can only find one powerfeed lever (red arrow). It's for the x-axis. None for y or z that I can find. Perhaps the axle (yellow arrow) has some function for that?

It also came with some extra's.
- horizontal axle 2018-10-06 13.05.57.jpg 20181006_125212.jpg 20181006_125235.jpg 20181006_125501.jpg
- Vertical support arms (one broken.
- Some gears and other small bits.
- And some attachment to turn it into a vertical shaper machine.
 

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Can't really add much of substance other than that the English on the tags suggests a translation. "Innest position on halted machine" is not how a North American or British machine tag would read.

-frank
 

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Hello Frank,

I think you're right. Another thing pointing to a non- usa or uk manufacturer is the motor.
It looks original. After cleaning off some grime I have found it to be Italian.

I have been going through all Italian makes in the lathes.co.uk list, but no match so far.

My guess now is that some Italian company made this "anonymous" machine for import companys (like Groenewegen) so they could market them under their own name.
 

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Facinating! Power transfer to the head is unlike any I have seen. I aint seen much, granted, but that is a unique machine in my world. Please keep us posted on your progress!
 
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