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Susan_in_SF

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Actually, my headline should read, "My Free Lathe, Thanks To Moderator/Staff Member Jim Dawson."

Thanks to Jim, I am now the owner of a complete 1941 Logan lathe! An older couple is selling their house, here in San Francisco, and were desperate to get rid of their metal lathe out of their garage before their house's open house that was set for yesterday.

The wife contacted Jim. Jim then private messaged me asking if I would take the lathe, and that it needed to be saved from the landfill.

There was no way I could say no, despite already having multiple lathes (I am planning on keeping 1 South Bend 9A, and 1 Craftsman 6" 101 lathe. The rest will be restored and sold. - or at least, that is what I am saying ;-) ).

When I arrived at their house to pickup the lathe, I was pleasantly surprised to find out that the lathe came with its original lathe legs as well as the pedestal to hold the motor and countershaft.

It was a good thing I brought along my patient lift (I got it free off craigslist). The lift is rated for 400 lbs. I am planning on replacing the ram with a 750 lb one, should I ever find one for cheap.

Anyways, at the bottom of this post are pics of the lathe, and of the couple who also helped me load it into my poor, abused Pontiac Vibe hatchback car. I will also post a pic of what the lathe is supposed to look like when put together. By a weird coincidence, I happen to have a 53 or 54 inch lathe chip pan in my garage that happened to come off a Logan lathe!

I believe the lathe is a pre-Montgomery Ward Logan 200. Per what I read online, when complete with legs and motor, and stuff, this lathe weighs 520lbs.

I am wondering if there is any logical reason to keep this 10" Logan lathe, in addition to my 9" South Bend.

My excuse for keeping the smaller Craftsman is that, from what people told me, smaller lathes are better for turning very small stuff.

The Logan also has a 1-1/2" x 8 tpi spindle - the same as my South Bend. However, instead of being a 9", the Logan has a 10" swing. Plus, my South Bend has a QC box whereas the Logan doesn't. However, would that matter? All I need is one lathe with a QC box, right? Plus, I found plans in one of my "Best of Projects in Metal" books for making a QC box for the Atlas 618/Craftsman 6" lathes. I plan on making the QC box.

So, to reiterate, do I have any logical reason to keep the Logan lathe?

Also, once again, I'd like to send a huge thank you to Jim Dawson for referring me to this lathe in need.

In addition to having "Overkill" as my middle name, my aka could now be, "The Crazy Lathe Lady." Thanks Jim ;-)

Susan

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Looks to be in pretty good condition from what I can see. And it has all of the parts. :)

The question that I have is: Where the heck do you put all of that stuff in a single car garage? :eek:
 

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That's a good looking lathe! Glad to hear you saved it from the landfill.
 

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I am wondering if there is any logical reason to keep this 10" Logan lathe, in addition to my 9" South Bend.
Wait... You are asking US to answer that question? That is like asking an alcoholic if you should have another drink... ;)
 

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You can never have too many tools. Obviously, your space is too small and you need to move so you have more room for tools!

Didn't work on my wife. :)
 

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Well done by both you and Jim.
My advice, worth all that you'll pay for it, is to fix it up (looks like mostly cleaning) and run it before you decide to "downsize" anything.
 

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Free is the best kinda lathe to get!!!!
Congratulations Susan! :grin:
 

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Only way to beat that deal is to get payed to haul off. It dose have a nice different tailstock .
 

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Congrats Susan and what a deal!

Serial number is on the tail end of the front way and below is a link to see what year yours is.
http://www.lathe.com/ser-no.htm
 

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The easy answer is to keep all of them! :cool:

Seriously though, if you really need to get rid of one, I would shed the Atlas/Craftsman. I base my opinion on having owned an Atlas 6" in the past and currently own a Logan/Wards 10". There is nothing the Atlas can do that the SB or Logan can't do as good or better. There is also the added benefit of sharing tooling between the SB and Logan.
 

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Seriously, though, is there any logical reason why I would benefit having this additional lathe in the shop? I am trying to find excuses to keep it ;-)
Omg, I tell myself that I can't keep my woodworking stuff in my garage, then, I found someone getting rid of a 13" drum sander for $55. How could I say no when I have a whole tree of black walnut slabs and a 10" Inca combo 570 jointer/planer?
Then, I get this free lathe!
I have a knack for getting deals, for some reason. That is why I have to play tetris with my equipment to fit in my 1 car garage!
 

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I should clarify, I don't have anything against the Atlas 6". They are good machines for their size. It was my first lathe and I learned a lot with it. I just don't think it has any advantage for turning small work over a 9 or 10 inch lathe.
 

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The easy answer is to keep all of them! :cool:

Seriously though, if you really need to get rid of one, I would shed the Atlas/Craftsman. I base my opinion on having owned an Atlas 6" in the past and currently own a Logan/Wards 10". There is nothing the Atlas can do that the SB or Logan can't do as good or better. There is also the added benefit of sharing tooling between the SB and Logan.
I can't argue with you T.J.. It's just that that little lathe with the factory lathe legs, original drum switch bed mount, and bed mount lathe lamp is too much eye candy/gloat to let go of, lol.
 

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If the Logan is a change gear lathe, your path is clear.
Sell the Logan, Sell the Craftsman, Use the money to buy other tools. You have no need for multiple lathes that will do essentially the same job.
Your biggest whine here is you don't have enough room in your shop. Be a hoarder but seek variety.
 

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I feel your pain, as I have the same problem. For me, it makes more sense to have one really well tooled lathe than two or three marginally tooled ones.

And I would agree that the 9" SB with a QCGB trumps the 10" Logan with change gears.
 

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I should clarify, I don't have anything against the Atlas 6". They are good machines for their size. It was my first lathe and I learned a lot with it. I just don't think it has any advantage for turning small work over a 9 or 10 inch lathe.
Plus, I was hoping to later have my now 11 year old son learn to turn on that 6" lathe. He has high functioning autism which contributes to his overall lack of coordination. All he wants to do is play video games. When I feel he is ready, I want him to learn some metalworking. So, I guess that's my extra excuse for not letting go of my less abled Craftsman lathe.
 

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If the Logan is a change gear lathe, your path is clear.
Sell the Logan, Sell the Craftsman, Use the money to buy other tools. You have no need for multiple lathes that will do essentially the same job.
Your biggest whine here is you don't have enough room in your shop. Be a hoarder but seek variety.
ASM109, I like your answer. Simple and logical!
 

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Susan,
Wood shops are overrated,
When in doubt, go for the precision of metal work.
Nice problem to have, too many machines.
 

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Susan,
Wood shops are overrated,
When in doubt, go for the precision of metal work.
Nice problem to have, too many machines.
Yeah, I need to sell a lot of stuff. I should sell my woodworking stuff. I just dread having to sell on craigslist. I hear so many bad stories from sellers on people asking a million questions, and then flaking.
 

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Btw, guys, if you know what model this Logan lathe really is, please let me know. I am guessing it is a model 200, but the label on the lathe says it is a screw cutting AND a turret lathe. I think that is why the tailstock looks different.
I sent an email to the folks at lathe.com, hoping Scott Logan would know, but I haven't heard back from anyone yet.
 

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I had a Logan few years back with same tailstock.don't see a lot of them. image.jpeg
 

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Btw, should any of you guys need help finding a deal on anything, let me know. I would not mind helping you find a deal or just find a hard to find item.
 

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Congratulations to you, Susan. And thanks to you, Jim.
 

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Was a model 400..had to look at older pictures to verify model..
 

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Well done Susan, You do seem to get lucky, nothing like that happens here in Downunderland. I think I would get instantly divorced if I tried to squeeze anything else in my car garage/shop. I always have to move something to get at anything. even have to back the car out to get at the lathe. Also have to move the air compressor out of the way to get at the MIG weldr, and have to move that to get at the oxy set.

Had the electrician come by today to replace a faulty RCD, and had to move the motorcycle out so he could get at the switchboard. And so it goes on. Perhaps I'll give up riding one day then i can sell it.
 
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