'new' Powr-kraft 10" Lathe And Some Questions.

T. J.

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Well, after owning my first lathe (Craftsman/Atlas 6") for only a few months, I'm already 'upgrading'! Over the weekend, I picked up a Powr-Kraft (Logan) model 15TLC-2136 while traveling to visit family. I wasn't really shopping, but here on the high plains, this stuff is scarce and you better get it when you can (at least that's what I told my wife). The man I bought it from acquired it when he bought his deceased neighbor's machine tools. He tells me that it was in pieces when he got it and that he replaced several gears in the headstock and QCGB as he was putting it back together. It runs smoothly and everything seems to work as it should.

I've attached some pics of it in its temporary location in my barn. The bench it's on came with it, but it's much too large for my shop, so I'll have to build a new one. You'll notice the 'two-tone' paint scheme. According to the Logan website, the 2136's weren't shipped with a QCGB, so that was probably added later. I'm wondering about the headstock cover and gear cover though. There is a gap between the headstock and the cover when it's closed. Also, the hole in the gear cover doesn't line up exactly with the spindle. Do you think these are unoriginal parts, or is that just the way they came? Right now I'm cleaning it up and trying to decide whether or not I want to disassemble and paint it...

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Nice looking machine, and a bit of tooling too, good for you! On the fit, original or not, those are adjustable on every Logan I've seen, using the brackets and such on the rear of the headstock where they attach. If not original, they look like similar replacements.
 

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Well, after owning my first lathe (Craftsman/Atlas 6") for only a few months, I'm already 'upgrading'! Over the weekend, I picked up a Powr-Kraft (Logan) model 15TLC-2136 while traveling to visit family. I wasn't really shopping, but here on the high plains, this stuff is scarce and you better get it when you can (at least that's what I told my wife). The man I bought it from acquired it when he bought his deceased neighbor's machine tools. He tells me that it was in pieces when he got it and that he replaced several gears in the headstock and QCGB as he was putting it back together. It runs smoothly and everything seems to work as it should.

I've attached some pics of it in its temporary location in my barn. The bench it's on came with it, but it's much too large for my shop, so I'll have to build a new one. You'll notice the 'two-tone' paint scheme. According to the Logan website, the 2136's weren't shipped with a QCGB, so that was probably added later. I'm wondering about the headstock cover and gear cover though. There is a gap between the headstock and the cover when it's closed. Also, the hole in the gear cover doesn't line up exactly with the spindle. Do you think these are unoriginal parts, or is that just the way they came? Right now I'm cleaning it up and trying to decide whether or not I want to disassemble and paint it...

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When I first got my Powr-Kraft I took it all apart, cleaned, and painted it. I wish now I would have just done a good cleaning and inspection without taking it apart. I would have ran it for awhile to see if it had any issues that needed to be addressed first. After all the "kinks" had been worked out I would then have put thought into a paint job. Hide sight is a wonderful thing. I would not be having the problems I am having now second guessing what might be wrong or what I might have caused to be wrong.
 

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Nice looking machine, and a bit of tooling too, good for you! On the fit, original or not, those are adjustable on every Logan I've seen, using the brackets and such on the rear of the headstock where they attach. If not original, they look like similar replacements.
Thanks, I'll try adjusting them this weekend.

When I first got my Powr-Kraft I took it all apart, cleaned, and painted it. I wish now I would have just done a good cleaning and inspection without taking it apart. I would have ran it for awhile to see if it had any issues that needed to be addressed first. After all the "kinks" had been worked out I would then have put thought into a paint job.
Thanks bama. I think that's probably what I'm gonna do. I haven't had much time to mess with it yet. I have cleaned up the ways and mounted the countershaft. Hopefully I can get the motor hooked back up and make a few chips this weekend. Some issues I've identified so far:
  1. The bronze bearings on the countershaft need to be replaced.
  2. The turret tool post is cracked on one side from someone tightening the set screws on a toolbit too tight. (I was planning on getting a QCTP eventually anyway, but now there's already one on the way from Enco thanks to their sale:))
Hopefully I can report some progress by tomorrow!
 

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Glad to hear! I got everything working good on mine today except for the "thread dial". I am supposed to get one in the Tuesday mail. Really looking forward to having this project done. Then I can get to the Logan 1825 project!
 

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I got to spend a little time with the lathe on Saturday. I got a few layers of crud off of it and even found some original Logan blue gray paint on the carriage! Per eeler1's advise, I was able to get the gear cover aligned properly. For the belt cover, it looks like I'll need to take it off and do some light filing on the mounting brackets - no big deal. I got the motor wired up and made a few cuts on some 3/4" cold roll - very nice! Here's a couple of pics, plus one of the broken tool post. Just one more turn...

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Doin good and glad to hear it! I will never be a machinist, but these machines just fascinate me.
 

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Don't be a defeatist, who knows what you will achieve, hobby or not, if you can make stuff for your bike. it doesn't matter what the world calls you.
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Don't be a defeatist, who knows what you will achieve, hobby or not, if you can make stuff for your bike. it doesn't matter what the world calls you.
I have been called many things in my 67 years on earth, but machinist isn't one of them. I did not mean for that to be a statement of defeatism. I know my limitations. I truly believe I have the capability to make many things with a lathe. I just need to take the time and effort to make things happen. I worked on and around jet aircraft for almost 40 years. Keep your heads covered and beware of falling objects!
 

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I thought I'd revive this thread to show some progress on the lathe. I acquired a chip pan off eBay and built some legs for it. The pan was from a slightly longer lathe, so I had to weld up the bolt holes and drill new ones. Since I had to disassemble the lathe to move it to its permanent home in my shop, I figured I just as well paint it too. I'm using Sherwin-Williams All Purpose Enamel matched to Benjamin-Moore's 'Baby seal black' color. More pics to come as progress continues.
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Making progress...
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All that's left to paint is the headstock and QCGB, then on to reassembly.

Frank- the paint is Sherwin-Williams All-purpose enamel matched to Benjamin-Moore's 'Baby seal black' color. I would have preferred S-W Industrial enamel, but it only comes in gallons.
 

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That four way tool post must have been weak. I've snapped Allen wrenches in two or twisted the ends off. But I've never broken a tool post. That may have hit the chuck while running. Would be my guess. Nice machines I have the 11" LOGAN , had it for thirty years or more. With a little care and oiling most will last longer then we will.
 

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Looks like Navy blue.
 

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Looking good, and a really nice job putting together those legs.
 

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Assembly is coming along nicely. Now I have a question about the cross slide nut. The nut is a two-piece assembly as shown in the pics.
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My assumption is that this setup is to allow removal of backlash from the cross slide. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. The owners manual doesn't say anything about adjustment and the parts list doesn't illustrate this detail. When installed on the screw, there is about a .055" gap between the two halves. I was concerned about the pinching effect of tightening the screws causing undue wear on the screw. I solved that somewhat by placing a flat washer (.045" thick) between the halves. There was room for a washer on only one screw. It now looks like this: IMG_0123.JPG

The screws can be snugged up to where there is no detectable backlash in the cross slide. Does this look reasonable? Is this an original Logan nut, or an addition by a previous owner?

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I haven't seen a Logan with a nut like that before. I suspect it was a PO addition.
 

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Over the past couple of years I've looked through several logan manuals on different size machines and haven't seen anything like that. But even if I hadn't I would spot it as an obvious owner mod. There is almost no space for the threads for the screws. A factory design would have looked like an un-modifed nut with the slab added to it. And would probably have had an "E" shaped shim pack.

The nut was probably worn and a PO did that instead of what he should have done, which is get a new nut.
 

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So T.J. did you have to buy some Benjamin Moore baby seal black and take it over to a Sherwin Williams store? Or can they match it just from the name from some fancy code-book? Also do you find SW enamel better than BM's? Why not just use BM?
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The SW store actually had a BM color book and could match the two codes. My choice of brands was nothing more scientific than the SW store is handier for me to get to. :chunky:
 

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That is a GREAT looking color. It's so good, I'm almost (but not quite) motivated enough to paint mine too. :)
 

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I will say that the baby seal black is a very close, but not exact match to the original paint on mine. The most important thing to me though is that it's all painted - with the same color all over! It's been a long project, but I'm glad I did it.

It's getting close to being fully assembled. I found that I can't mount the Harbor Freight motor that came with it without installing a riser between the countershaft assembly and chip pan. I was planning on replacing that motor eventually anyway so I decided to do it now. There's a new Baldor 1/2 HP 3 phase motor on the way.
 

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Well, it looks very nice. My project lathe is sort of camouflaged: currently 4 different colors and that doesn't include the motor!
 
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It's getting really close now. I'm waiting on the paint to dry on a couple of hinge brackets for the headstock, then I can finish the reassembly. Detailed pics to follow!

I have a question regarding the name plates. The switch plate and feed chart were painted black, but the Powr-Kraft nameplate on the headstock was a sort of brown color. It can be seen in the pics in my earlier posts. Is that the original color, or was it black too?
 

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Yes! I got the electrical work done over thanksgiving. I am now in the process of making leveling feet for the lathe. Once I get those done and finish the name plates, I'll post some more photos!
 

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Great! Looking forward to pics...
 

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I finally got some more photos taken!

First, here are the leveling feet that I made:
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