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One shot lubrication on Bridgeport Mill
- Thread starter binnaway
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Yes I have, I would suggest you check this site out.
http://hqtinc.com/waylubekitpn1719.aspx
You can add 2 more to run a tube to the X and Y feed screws nuts too.
http://hqtinc.com/waylubekitpn1719.aspx
You can add 2 more to run a tube to the X and Y feed screws nuts too.
Richard,
That makes things a lot easier, thanks for your help
Garry
That makes things a lot easier, thanks for your help
Garry
Yes I have, I would suggest you check this site out.
http://hqtinc.com/waylubekitpn1719.aspx
You can add 2 more to run a tube to the X and Y feed screws nuts too.
Is your lube system currently grease? If so how do you intend to purge the grease to go to oil? Just curious because my bridgeport is all grease lubed and I want to go to oil but dont really want to tear the machine down to convert. Ideas ?? Comments?
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There is a couple of ways you can do the convert. High Quality uses the existing zerk grease holes and you route the copper tubes out in the open. If you want to make it look modern you plug those holes with pipe plugs and drill new holes inside the saddle and route the tube inside it. Bridgeport uses a 1/4" x 3/8" lead tube that squashes around the copper tube to hold it the tube into the drilled hole (special order). I sometimes just epoxy them in. But with either method you need to clean out the old grease by dismantling the machine.
Some use the existing zerk fittings and use way oil instead of grease. You need to but a old style grease gun with oil (there was a thread someplace where they talk about special grease gun that are made for oil that you can still buy.
Back in the old days, before they made grease cartridges and when you sucked or scooped the grease in the gun, you could use those grease guns to pump oil. Basically they had a leather or rubber cup that sealed the piston. The new ones leak like a sieve. If your drilling the new holes you're introducing chips and you have to dismantle it. I would do it with the High Quality type too.
I use to sell Trico Oilers and when I took the sales class the Lubrication Engineer taught us to never mix oil with grease or mix greases as some chemicals (waxes in lubricatants) have a hardening chemical reaction that gel and plug the system. Another thing you have to think about some of the old Bridgeport's had a relief milled in the middle of the saddle sometimes, aprox. .030" and you can't go to oil as the grease acted as a barrier or seal to keep the chips and coolant out.
You can check that by checking the middle 1/3 of the table and saddle ways. If your rebuilding the machine you could mill that out, grind in some new oil grooves or epoxy Rulon on the ways. It's a good practice that every Bridgeport owner makes it a weekend project to pull apart the machine and clean it. The feed nut brackets get plugged. So pulling it apart and blowing out the crud. You will be amazed how the inside of the knee gets full of chips. Bridgeport's are simple to pull apart.
Some use the existing zerk fittings and use way oil instead of grease. You need to but a old style grease gun with oil (there was a thread someplace where they talk about special grease gun that are made for oil that you can still buy.
Back in the old days, before they made grease cartridges and when you sucked or scooped the grease in the gun, you could use those grease guns to pump oil. Basically they had a leather or rubber cup that sealed the piston. The new ones leak like a sieve. If your drilling the new holes you're introducing chips and you have to dismantle it. I would do it with the High Quality type too.
I use to sell Trico Oilers and when I took the sales class the Lubrication Engineer taught us to never mix oil with grease or mix greases as some chemicals (waxes in lubricatants) have a hardening chemical reaction that gel and plug the system. Another thing you have to think about some of the old Bridgeport's had a relief milled in the middle of the saddle sometimes, aprox. .030" and you can't go to oil as the grease acted as a barrier or seal to keep the chips and coolant out.
You can check that by checking the middle 1/3 of the table and saddle ways. If your rebuilding the machine you could mill that out, grind in some new oil grooves or epoxy Rulon on the ways. It's a good practice that every Bridgeport owner makes it a weekend project to pull apart the machine and clean it. The feed nut brackets get plugged. So pulling it apart and blowing out the crud. You will be amazed how the inside of the knee gets full of chips. Bridgeport's are simple to pull apart.
Richard King.... Thanks for the advise. Learned something new today and thats a good thing. I will figure on tearing it down and taking a close look at it while cleaning it. Cant blame a guy for trying to avoid it but I suppose its inevitable.. Thanks again
It is grease at the moment and I will be purging the system with oil after trying to get somr solvent through first. Previous owner thought that the lubrication points were for grease not oil
Garry
Garry
Is your lube system currently grease? If so how do you intend to purge the grease to go to oil? Just curious because my bridgeport is all grease lubed and I want to go to oil but dont really want to tear the machine down to convert. Ideas ?? Comments?
Richard,
Many thanks for your advice, oil guns are available in Australia so I presume that you will be able to obtain them in US. I am going to try and use some solvent first to attempt to remove most of the grease but as you have said maybe I will have to remove table and saddle and give a thorough clean and inspect.
Garry
Many thanks for your advice, oil guns are available in Australia so I presume that you will be able to obtain them in US. I am going to try and use some solvent first to attempt to remove most of the grease but as you have said maybe I will have to remove table and saddle and give a thorough clean and inspect.
Garry
There is a couple of ways you can do the convert. High Quality uses the existing zerk grease holes and you route the copper tubes out in the open. If you want to make it look modern you plug those holes with pipe plugs and drill new holes inside the saddle and route the tube inside it. Bridgeport uses a 1/4" x 3/8" lead tube that squashes around the copper tube to hold it the tube into the drilled hole (special order). I sometimes just epoxy them in. But with either method you need to clean out the old grease by dismantling the machine.
Some use the existing zerk fittings and use way oil instead of grease. You need to but a old style grease gun with oil (there was a thread someplace where they talk about special grease gun that are made for oil that you can still buy.
Back in the old days, before they made grease cartridges and when you sucked or scooped the grease in the gun, you could use those grease guns to pump oil. Basically they had a leather or rubber cup that sealed the piston. The new ones leak like a sieve. If your drilling the new holes you're introducing chips and you have to dismantle it. I would do it with the High Quality type too.
I use to sell Trico Oilers and when I took the sales class the Lubrication Engineer taught us to never mix oil with grease or mix greases as some chemicals (waxes in lubricatants) have a hardening chemical reaction that gel and plug the system. Another thing you have to think about some of the old Bridgeport's had a relief milled in the middle of the saddle sometimes, aprox. .030" and you can't go to oil as the grease acted as a barrier or seal to keep the chips and coolant out.
You can check that by checking the middle 1/3 of the table and saddle ways. If your rebuilding the machine you could mill that out, grind in some new oil grooves or epoxy Rulon on the ways. It's a good practice that every Bridgeport owner makes it a weekend project to pull apart the machine and clean it. The feed nut brackets get plugged. So pulling it apart and blowing out the crud. You will be amazed how the inside of the knee gets full of chips. Bridgeport's are simple to pull apart.