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Nice and clean looking. The judges will deduct points for leaving the key in the chuck though. :)
 

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Yes. Spent a few days cleaning it up but it looked like you see it when I bought it. Been very impressed how well it was maintained its first 66 yrs.
 

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Looks like a real score, and you got the large spindle bore as well. Nice.
 

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Here is an 820 I redid earlier this year.

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Wow! Very nice automatic apron and quick change gearbox and everything nice looking late I just have the Plain Jane apron and no quick change gearbox however I did do the wiper motor electronic speed control conversion and it works out quite nicely the only time I need to swap gears is if I need to thread something which is rare.

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Not a Logan owner yet ...but maybe later this week. I have found a 2555 VL with 24" between centers, QC gear box but no real other goodies other than a 3 jaw chuck and lamp post tool holder (and no steady rest) with it but looks like it is in decent condition with no rust to speak of. I posted in another thread but thought I would ask here if I could ...what would the proper value be on a lathe like this? Also, to get it into my shop how big of a project is it to break it down for moving? Thanks for letting me join in here. Richard
 

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I can't help with how to break it down. The catalog page says that the shipping weight of the 2555-V is 1015 pounds. Probably a hundred pounds of that is crate. The rated distance between centers is 23 inches. The LOA is 59" and the height is 49".
 

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It's tough to qive you a value because so much depends on condition and what tooling it comes with.
Prices vary depending on where the machine is located as well. Try to see whether comparable machines on CL
are similar in price.

Tooling can add quite a bit of cost, so if it's light on tooling, be sure to factor that into the negoiations. It's important to
determine how much the bed is worn on an older machine as well. If the machine is under power, be sure the seller
demonstrates that everything works. If It's not, try to determine what's not working, and make an allowance for repairs.
Don't be afraid to walk away from a lathe that looks like a money pit.

As far as breaking it down, I don't know about that model, but when I bought my Model 200, my son and I broke it down into managable chucks pretty quickly. Just plan on taking a good box of tools, and some friends.

Logans are good lathes, and benefit from decent parts availability through Logan Actuator.
 
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Thanks again. I guess I am looking for a ballpark $$ of a lathe like this with what it has and everything is working properly. I have seen many of this size for sale in the last six months in my area.
 

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How much are they asking for the Logan?, and what's the usual price range for other comparable lathes in your area?

Around here that lathe would be listed for at least $1500. - $2000.00, but prices are high in my area and lathes like that are
thin on the ground. It sounds like that lathe has been pretty well stripped clean of tooling if all it comes with is a 3 jaw chuck. I would find an online Logan catalog, make a list of all the tooling that came with it originally, and point out to the seller all the missing pieces. If it needs any repairs, try to estimate the cost as well. Logan sells parts for older machines,
but they tend to be expensive. When I bought my Logan, I got the lathe cheap, but then spent more than double the price of the machine making repairs and tooling it up. Not trying to discourage you, but just suggesting you know what you're in for if you negotiate with the seller.
 

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I will point out that the cost of new parts for any machine today will reflect what new parts cost today, not what they cost back in the 1960's.

Also, back when machines like this one were new, they didn't "come with" much at all. And although many would disagree with me, I classify things like chucks. QCTP's and holders, steady rests, etc., as accessories, not tooling. Tooling for the most part is expendable, or at least in my use of the term it is. When these machines were new, they seldom came with either accessories or tooling beyond a few minor items like dead centers and wrenches to fit the machine (and which unless the machine was in regular service recently are probably all MIA).
 

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Right. Any opinions on that $950 price with the information I have given?
 

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I will point out that the cost of new parts for any machine today will reflect what new parts cost today, not what they cost back in the 1960's.

Also, back when machines like this one were new, they didn't "come with" much at all. And although many would disagree with me, I classify things like chucks. QCTP's and holders, steady rests, etc., as accessories, not tooling. Tooling for the most part is expendable, or at least in my use of the term it is. When these machines were new, they seldom came with either accessories or tooling beyond a few minor items like dead centers and wrenches to fit the machine (and which unless the machine was in regular service recently are probably all MIA).

You're right Robert, but that doesn't mean the OP shouldn't try to negotiate the price down by pointing out their absence. :)
 

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Right. Any opinions on that $950 price with the information I have given?
If that's a complete, running lathe in decent condition, I'd buy that machine in a heartbeat for $950.00.
 

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The owner says yes it is running with no problems other than the start capacitor. But actually now I find it has a 4 jaw check but no 3 jaw chuck and no steady rest. A couple of lamp post tool holders. Nothing else to speak of. I grabbed the pictures he listed them with and can now post them here. So I guess I can now somewhat join this thread properly if I in fact get this lathe. :tranquility:

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So, does that mean the lathe doesn't run, but he says it would run fine with a new start capacitor? If so, that's a different case since
it's more difficult to evaluate the condition of a lathe that doesn't run. Kind off like the guy that wants to sell you a car that doesn't run
but wants you to pay just as much because it "only" needs a starter motor.

Have you actually gone to see the lathe?

Here's a pdf of the 1963 Logan catalog with the specs for that lathe. Looks like it came with a 1 HP, 3 phase motor. ( Which wouldn't
have a start capacitor.)
 

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He says it runs ...somehow he gets the motor running by hand ....but I will let him do that. So he says I can see it under power. I can't see it until Friday due to his availability. And it is a 5HP motor ...not the original. So with the pictures ....any more input on value folks?
 
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Here's a pdf of the 1963 Logan catalog with the specs for that lathe. Looks like it came with a 1 HP, 3 phase motor. ( Which wouldn't
have a start capacitor.)[/QUOTE]


No. It comes with the switch, but it only says to use a 1 HP 3-phase 1725 RPM motor, not that it was included from Logan. That was standard up until at least in the 1970's. And even then, you could buy a lathe with or without their motor.

If it wouldn't kill the deal, I would take it without that 5HP motor. If you shop around and are willing to take a used one, you can probably buy it for not much more than what a new starting capacitor would cost.

On what accessories it came with, avoid claiming that it came with much of anything, because it's too easy to prove otherwise. Which isn't to say that you can't say something like "if only it had...".
 

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I have a 1 HP motor already that can be wired to 110 or 220 ...I have to check the RPM on it though. The guy that owns this has been a little hard to communicate with and he says the price is firm. I should be he first one to look at it today ...so we will see.
 

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Well ...I saw and bought the lathe. It came with an extra 4 jaw chuck, a couple of face plates and a couple of lamp post tool holders. The ways seem to be in very good condition but of course the whole lathe needs a good going over. Everything does work on it ....but no spanner wrench for removing the chuck. And of course there is the sticker shock of $75 for one from Logan. I did a search here to see the alternatives and did not find a thread that was definitive on finding one. Has anyone come up with an alternative recently? What is the size of that spanner wrench? Thanks,
 

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There are lots of Logan parts on ebay, though I can't remember seeing a wrench like that. Worth a try.
Be sure and post some more photos as you get set up. Congratulations on your new lathe!
 

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Will do on the photos. I looked for one of the wrenches on Ebay ...and other sources but so far nothing specifically Logan. Lots of spanners but I don't know if they will work which is why I was asking if anyone else found an alternative. I like the idea of the L type spindle as opposed to just a threaded spindle though.
 

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It looks like it uses a hook wrench, which are sized by the diameter of the part you're tightening. I bet that's
a standard part and shouldn't be hard to find. I bet if you posted a question on the General Home Shop sub-forum
asking what wrench a long-taper spindle chuck uses, you'll get a definite answer.

https://www.smalltools.com/lathe-spindle-nose-identification-chart/

Here's a vid that should help:
 

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Thanks that helps ...I may try to measure and make one, although it would be great to see an original Logan wrench for reference. Sorry to have hijacked this thread so much ...you guys are great.
 
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