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There are shall we say six general types of spanners, Face, Hook or Pin, and each can usually be found as either Fixed or Adjustable. You need a Hook Spanner (probably made by either Armstong or Williams) to fit the diameter of the coupling nut that retains the chuck. It can be either fixed or adjustable. The coupling or retaining nut stays on the spindle, has RH threads, and is turned CW (looking from the tailstock end of the lathe) to loosen. You should have no problem finding one on eBay, once you measure the diameter of the nut.
 
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It looks like it uses a hook wrench, which are sized by the diameter of the part you're tightening. I bet that's
a standard part and shouldn't be hard to find. I bet if you posted a question on the General Home Shop sub-forum
asking what wrench a long-taper spindle chuck uses, you'll get a definite answer.

https://www.smalltools.com/lathe-spindle-nose-identification-chart/

Here's a vid that should help:
Interesting.
I like how he tightened it, then hit it a few times whim a hammer to seat it, then tightened a little more.

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I found one on Ebay ....$30 and it works so I am good now on this one. Thanks folks.
 

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I just acquired a Logan 400, S/N 52434 which puts it as manufactured in 1949. It seems to have spent the past several decades in a woodworking shop (lots of oily sawdust) and the man who owned the lathe (I bought it from an estate) obtained it from a fellow US Naval officer. It came with a 4-jaw chuck and the collet chuck and several tailstock Jacobs chucks. The headstock cover was missing and had been replaced with a homemade fiberglass cover, functional but ugly, and I sourced a replacement. This is the lathe as I received it. I'm in the process of dis-assembling the headstock to replace the back gear and replace the V-belt. I'll just clean it up and not re-paint it.
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What shape are the headstock bearings in?

Welcome to the forum, and congrats on the new lathe.
 

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Both of these Power Kraft (Logan) Lathes I acquired within the last year from Craigslist (from two different sellers). Coincidently both lathes are 1953. The one pictured without the quick change gear box has seen little use and has it's original paperwork including factory inspection card dated 9/11/1953. The lathes wound up costing me $500 each and came with 3 and 4 jaw chucks, backing plates, assorted tooling, and one Dumore tool post grinder. I realize that two lathes may be a bit much but the price was right, I have the room, and use them both. The pictured Palmgren Milling Attachment is a more recent purchase along with a QCTP. I machined the T bolt for the QCTP using the milling attachment. Both lathes appear to have the original belts and they work fine especially considering they are 65 years old!

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Great deal for 2 lathes and all they came with!
 

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I forgot to mention that I added the stands, they did not come with them. The lathe pictured with the quick change gear box I built the stand for the other I modified, someone else made it years ago for a wood lathe.
 

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Both of these Power Kraft (Logan) Lathes I acquired within the last year from Craigslist (from two different sellers). Coincidently both lathes are 1953. The one pictured without the quick change gear box has seen little use and has it's original paperwork including factory inspection card dated 9/11/1953. The lathes wound up costing me $500 each and came with 3 and 4 jaw chucks, backing plates, assorted tooling, and one Dumore tool post grinder. I realize that two lathes may be a bit much but the price was right, I have the room, and use them both. The pictured Palmgren Milling Attachment is a more recent purchase along with a QCTP. I machined the T bolt for the QCTP using the milling attachment. Both lathes appear to have the original belts and they work fine especially considering they are 65 years old!

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I like that bench with the tool carts under it.

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What shape are the headstock bearings in?
They appear to be in fine shape, but after 70 years, I'll clean them and re-pack the bearings. From what I've read, I'll need a special bearing grease (?) and put the bearings and grease in a plastic bag and pull a vacuum on it to force the grease into them.
 

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On my Model 200, the stock bearing had a seal on one side only, so it might work to put in the bag and simply work it in by hand. My understanding is that overgreasing should be avoided and that 1/3 of the volume should be greased, but hopefully the resident bearing experts around here (and there are some) will weigh in on that subject.
 

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It appears that Chevron SRI-2 is the bearing grease to use. I ordered it from Amazon for $12.85.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FL5BYGC/
The suggestion (from Scott Logan, IIRC) to soak the bearings in Pine Sol, rinse with hot water and repeat until the water runs clean worked as promised.

Repacking the bearings using using a kitchen vacuum food-saver worked well. I found it easiest to do one bearing at a time, coating the edges heavily with grease and placing the bag under vacuum. The only problem I ran into was knowing just how much grease was in the bearing since the recommendation is to fill it only 1/3 to 1/2 full. I probably got too much grease in each one, but . . .
 

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I've heard of a trick done back in the day where you put grease in a metal pail, throw in your bearings, and put the bucket over a fire. The hot grease thins out and soaks into the bearings and when it cools the grease thickens and they're greased. Never tried it but it does makes sense. Just a thought. Vacuum bag sounds easier but never tried either
 

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This is the only picture of my 820 I have right now. The history I know of it is that it was originally owned by Essex Wire in Fort Wayne. My brother's friend's granddad acquired it, and parked it in a shed for untold years. It was given to my brother, who later said I could have it. It was dusty, dirty, and full of crap. So far I've cleaned, oiled, bought a new chuck, new single phase 120v motor (I no longer have the three phase motor and now need the step pulley) and a drill chuck for the tailstock. I've been at the computer for several days drawing a taper attachment that I probably won't make anytime soon. Looking at these restored lathes makes me want to strip it down and repaint it.
Message me or come visit me,would LOVE to help you get this up and running again.. I am in Kendallville
 

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I thought I would post my two: The '62 1825 was done last year. The '51 955 was just finished up!

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The 955 was a fun project. I reluctantly (too many projects) purchased it from a debris hauler. He said it was heading for the scrape yard. Given its terrible appearance, I thought I could get some parts for the 1825. Being a turret lathe, the ways cleaned up nice and were in great shape, so I wasn't going to part it out. Hence, the clean up and putting my South Bend 10L on hold. It has the original Peerless 1/2 1PH motor with a Lovejoy variable pulley. I have never seen quite the setup this one has. The variable brass speed handle has an LA- designation. It also has a brake and tailstock with a beefy quill and point indicator towards the handle (with is graduated). It was a basket case...but fun!
 
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I thought I would post my two: The '62 1825 was done last year. The '51 955 was just finished up!

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The 955 was a fun project. I reluctantly (too many projects) purchased it from a debris hauler. He said it was heading for the scrape yard. Given its terrible appearance, I thought I could get some parts for the 1825. Being a turret lathe, the ways cleaned up nice and were in great shape, so I wasn't going to part it out. Hence, the clean up and putting my South Bend 10L on hold. It has the original Peerless 1/2 1PH motor with a Lovejoy variable pulley. I have never seen quite the setup this one has. The variable brass speed handle has an LA- designation. It also has a brake and tailstock with a beefy quill and point indicator towards the handle (with is graduated). It was a basket case...but fun!
You did great justice to those lathes - VERY nice work!

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I have two Logans at the moment, but for now, I'll just share the one at work. It's a 927 (which I don't see many of), serial number 56767. I got it from a state auction. Much of the lathe was in excellent shape, but the bull and back gears had been severely crashed, and needed repaired. I've sorted most of that out now, and I went through the whole machine, replacing bearings and repainting everything. I went for a "Fallout" paint theme, for anyone familiar with the game, and I'm pretty happy with it. IMG_20190511_203221_349.jpg
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New member here . I've had this Logan model 1955 since 1982 . Get this, my Mother in Law bought it for me . It came with a three jaw , a four jaw , a follow rest , a back plate , and lots of extra gears that I'm not sure of their use . I was able to find a genuine nos Logan taper attachment still in the original unopened factory box . The instructions are type written and dated 1955 .
This lathe seems to be quite accurate . I did an alignment test with a 2" aluminum round stock . Only .0006 off in 5 1/2 inches .
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I hope your machining skills are better than your posting skills. I get seasick looking at these upside down photos.
 

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New member here . I've had this Logan model 1955 since 1982 . Get this, my Mother in Law bought it for me . It came with a three jaw , a four jaw , a follow rest , a back plate , and lots of extra gears that I'm not sure of their use . I was able to find a genuine nos Logan taper attachment still in the original unopened factory box . The instructions are type written and dated 1955 .
This lathe seems to be quite accurate . I did an alignment test with a 2" aluminum round stock . Only .0006 off in 5 1/2 inches .
Steve
Steve, very nice lathe - and congrats on getting such a nice mother-in-law! BTW, if you could scan the taper attachment instructions (or take a photo of them) and post them that would be very helpful to other taper attachment owners.

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MisterFixit,

It seems that someone edited the JPEG standards a few years ago and must have hit the wrong key before saving it. For the last several years some people see a given photo as OK rotation-wise and some see it as inverted. Which way you see one depends upon what your JPEG viewer is and which version of the standard the camera or phone maker used. They look fine to me.
 

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Steve, very nice lathe - and congrats on getting such a nice mother-in-law! BTW, if you could scan the taper attachment instructions (or take a photo of them) and post them that would be very helpful to other taper attachment owners.

John
This is the only instruction that came with the taper attachment , I hope this helps ....Steve 00FDDFC3-415B-4555-BACB-4E6501E79F20.jpeg
 

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I also have a Logan 927 that I recently cleaned up. It's pretty beat up but works for me :). I had a spare 1HP Yaskawa servo lying around, so I rigged that up to replace the original motor/belt system. I was getting some belt slippage, so I started running 2x 1" flat belts at the same time to see how that would work. Haven't used it much yet since installing the servo(2 days ago) since I seem to have messed something up when re-assembling the clutch and power feed does not work anymore. This model uses regular deep groove ball bearings which I'm not thrilled about, but I replaced the original ones with some Nachi bearings and it seems to work very well with the bellville washer preload. Still have a good number of things left to fix, but this is where I'm at now.
 

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I also have a Logan 927 that I recently cleaned up. It's pretty beat up but works for me :). I had a spare 1HP Yaskawa servo lying around, so I rigged that up to replace the original motor/belt system. I was getting some belt slippage, so I started running 2x 1" flat belts at the same time to see how that would work. Haven't used it much yet since installing the servo(2 days ago) since I seem to have messed something up when re-assembling the clutch and power feed does not work anymore. This model uses regular deep groove ball bearings which I'm not thrilled about, but I replaced the original ones with some Nachi bearings and it seems to work very well with the bellville washer preload. Still have a good number of things left to fix, but this is where I'm at now.
Your drive belt setup is going to give you problems if the drive pulley is only one size. You're basically trying to spin the lathe at two different speeds at once. I'm also not sure what you're talking about with the bearings. This lathe takes the standard New Departure bearings, and the deep groove ball setup is pretty common for this era. Are you just saying you'd rather it be a tapered roller bearing?
 

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Your drive belt setup is going to give you problems if the drive pulley is only one size. You're basically trying to spin the lathe at two different speeds at once. I'm also not sure what you're talking about with the bearings. This lathe takes the standard New Departure bearings, and the deep groove ball setup is pretty common for this era. Are you just saying you'd rather it be a tapered roller bearing?
Hi OldManPatterson! You can see from the pictures that the drive belt pulley is stepped like the spindle pulley. Yep I would prefer angular contact or taper roller, but I can convert it myself if I find the need later on down the road. Your fallout theme is very fun. The cabinet differences are interesting. I want to put some small drawers on the right side, but that will be a project for another day. I can easily fit some under my motor on the left now though!
 
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