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burtonbr

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Added a small recess and threaded holes in this tree for internal fork stop, took it real slow since I only had one chance to get it right. These were made for external stop and I use an internal. Not much machining to show it didn’t take too long but here’s a few pics.
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With the cam stop installed
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I knew the trail length was long on this bike with 0 deg trees and 10” over tubes and that was probably the reason it handled so stiff at 40+ But wasn’t sure the best way to correct it. I thought about building a Springer, or buying one but hated to spend a lot without knowing for sure it would improve the bike or the handling. I Did a few measurements and drawings in cad to see how much I could go with offset, raked trees and extended tubes.
Found a cheap set of 4deg trees and figured 16” over tubes would get the trail under 6” and only raise the steering head about 1”, it was cheap enough and figured I could always change it back if I didn’t like it.

This is the way it started. Trail was somewhere over 10” best I can measure
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New tubes and trees, trail is about 5 3/4” best I can measure
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I wish I had done this a couple of years ago, the ride and handling is sooooo much nicer, I always heard too much trail is bad but never experienced it and after riding it both ways it doesn’t feel like the same

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Added a small recess and threaded holes in this tree for internal fork stop, took it real slow since I only had one chance to get it right. These were made for external stop and I use an internal. Not much machining to show it didn’t take too long but here’s a few pics.
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With the cam stop installed
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I knew the trail length was long on this bike with 0 deg trees and 10” over tubes and that was probably the reason it handled so stiff at 40+ But wasn’t sure the best way to correct it. I thought about building a Springer, or buying one but hated to spend a lot without knowing for sure it would improve the bike or the handling. I Did a few measurements and drawings in cad to see how much I could go with offset, raked trees and extended tubes.
Found a cheap set of 4deg trees and figured 16” over tubes would get the trail under 6” and only raise the steering head about 1”, it was cheap enough and figured I could always change it back if I didn’t like it.

This is the way it started. Trail was somewhere over 10” best I can measure
View attachment 245171



New tubes and trees, trail is about 5 3/4” best I can measure
View attachment 245173

I wish I had done this a couple of years ago, the ride and handling is sooooo much nicer, I always heard too much trail is bad but never experienced it and after riding it both ways it doesn’t feel like the same
I complement you on your suspension work. Its always good to engineer a solution and have it actually work. I did similar on a custom sportbike 10 years ago. I was moving from goofy sized mid 80's tires to modern 17" radials and a bit more width. Made sure the geometry was not changed. Handling sucked as a result. Wound up reducing rake and trail and the handling came back. Big grin. Nice work on your part.
 

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Really great solution. Looks better, and no doubt as you said handles better.
 
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