[Mill] Trans World Steel Vhm-728 Vertical/horizontal Milling Machine

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The acquisition of this Trans World Steel VHM-728, Vetrical/Horizontal Milling Machines was a comedy of errors.
I was informed of the pristine milling machine by fellow member dlane.
he made contact with the supposed owner and made an appointment to talk to him at 2:00 sunday afternoon.
i also made contact with the supposed owner as well, he told me the very same thing to be there on sunday at 2:00 to discuss the mill's sale.
Derrick warned me that there may be more than meets the eye and to show up early.
i concurred, it sounded a bit shady to me- but for the advertised price of $250 i had to go!!!:nail biter:
I rented a small trailer saturday afternoon and made preparations for a pick and haul on sunday.
the mill was advertised in San Francisco, an hour and a half trip w/ trailer in tow.
I left for SF at 11:00 am in anticipation of heavy traffic, i ended up being on site at 1:30 pm ready to go.
Luckily upon arrival, the REAL owner was present.
i introduced myself and said that i'm here to buy the milling machine and asked what he needed to get for it- he said $400 without hesitation .
I immediately countered with a $350 offer, He agreed after about 3 seconds of thought.
He said that there is only one condition, i had to take the mystery cabinet sitting next to the milling machine and it's contents with me.
I didn't open the mystery cabinet, i just agreed to prevent further thought of the deal that was just struck.
the owner of the home was selling the home, and he needed the mill gone as well as cleaning out the garage.
i got the feeling that i was doing him a favor it seems, to remove this junk from his property :grin:
After we agreed on price, i promptly placed the greenbacks right in his hand.
i couldn't believe the owner sold it too cheap, i figured there must be some kinda catch....
After the payment was made there was no time wasted in picking and loading. i used a comealong and solid shaft rollers to move the 1095 lb milling machine onto the trailer. i had it loaded in less than 10 minutes.
at about 1:45 pm a man showed up to the site, he was spitting bullets mad as soon as he seen the Mill on the trailer and was very mad at the owner. The owner calmly told the irate man that he had a broker that was responsible for the sale of the machine. The broker had made the same promise to talk about the Milling Machine to many clients at 2:00. where i'm sure he thought a bidding war would ensue and the mill would leave in any event on somebody's truck- i'm sure he didn't care which truck.
The Early Bird Got The Worm!!!! :grin:
the photographic evidence to follow......
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This beautifully preserved Milling Machine was manufactured in the early 80's in Taiwan
It's very much like a BP mill, only 1/2 scale.

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it has independent 1 hp motors on both the horizontal and vertical R8 spindles.

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the previous owner had the original sales brochure, manual and a cool literature bundle too boot!

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the select mill in the advertisement photo brochure below is another variant,
similar in size, but the head is much different.
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it came with a basic tooling package with a set of enco R8 collets, Fly Cutter, Complete 3/8" Clamping Set
some extra table clamps, a 1/2" carbide endmill, thin parallels, T bolts and wrenches !!!
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What saith the peanut gallery?

the inevitable video to follow!
thanks for looking!
 
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That is a cute little mill. Nice Score!

But more importantly, what was in the mystery cabinet? Inquiring minds want to know:rolleyes: Or was that the tooling?
 

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the tooling was part of the mystery, most of it was enclosed in the lil red toolbox.
i'll post a picture in a minute of the other part of the contents of the mystery box...
 

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UD, yeah, you suck. And is it also a horizontal? You did excellent…Dave.


Edit: silly me, I just read your tittle, yes it’s also a horizontal, you double suck, maybe even a triple suck!
 
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UD, yeah, you suck. And is it also a horizontal? You did excellent…Dave.


Edit: silly me, I just read your tittle, yes it’s also a horizontal, you double suck, maybe even a triple suck!

Thanks Dave!!!!:D
 

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Cool , looks like a good one , perfect hobby size , glad you got it
3ph, buttons on front , coolent setup ?.
Haven't heard of that brand before
Nice saw also :black eye:
Did the owner speak better English :big grin:.
 
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UD, yeah, you suck. And is it also a horizontal? You did excellent…Dave.


Edit: silly me, I just read your tittle, yes it’s also a horizontal, you double suck, maybe even a triple suck!
OMG, horizontal, too? I hear a huge sucking sound. Deals like that are just criminal, that is, unless I am the one getting them... 8^)
 

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I called that "shady" broker guy mulitiple times friday offering well above asking price to sell it saturday due to me being stuck at work sunday. He wouldn't budge and said I would have to come at 2 sunday. You lucky dog!!!
 

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Cool , looks like a good one , perfect hobby size , glad you got it
3ph, buttons on front , coolent setup ?.
Haven't heard of that brand before
Nice saw also :black eye:
Did the owner speak better English :big grin:.

Thanks Derrick!!
It's a single phase 115v unit, yep the coolant pump works too!
i have not heard of the brand either, but the Taiwanese will build a machine and put whatever name they'd like on it.
many of the Asian lathes are built in one factory under a hundred different badge names.
the saw is very new, looks like it has only made a few cuts!
it's funny that you mention the language barrier, the owner had a very thick but, understandable latin accent.
between the machine being misidentified, wrongly listed, and the broker and the owner's sales scheme, it's a wonder i got the mill at all!
 
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Hi mike glad you got it ,And it's on wheels, duel spindles , you did good :cool:
Wounder how they got the name wrong, dose it say rivet on it anywhere?
Did you get a vice with it , if not I have a good one I'll let go , no name but same as Kurt angloc.
Let us know how it works
 

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Hi mike glad you got it ,And it's on wheels, duel spindles , you did good :cool:
Wounder how they got the name wrong, dose it say rivet on it anywhere?
Did you get a vice with it , if not I have a good one I'll let go , no name but same as Kurt angloc.
Let us know how it works
Hi Derrick,
thank you!
i added the 4" casters before unloading the lil beast from the trailer.
my garages are kinda full, so i gotta put things on wheels to utilize them all effectively.

there is no "Rivet" printed anywhere on the machine, i have no idea how they came up with that name other than possibly a very bad translation from chinese to english?

the owner did not even know what a milling machine was.
i had to point out the machine i was there to buy. :face slap:

i'm suspecting a tenant occupied the dwelling for many years.
i assume that he must have passed on and the landloard(owner) was selling off the rest of the deceased belongings that remained in the dwelling.
the owner was moving back east and just wanted the crap out, if you'd believe my conjecture.
 

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That mill is a good hobby size mill, I imagine a dro could be fitted to it , X powerfeed could be a trick.
If I'm still in calli and you decide to sell it let me know, I'm needing to downsize. Moving is a PITA.
 

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Very unique with the vertical and horizontal spindles! And the small size too. That’s a keeper! I believe Rockwell had a similar kinda mill? How come your garage/shop still has room? I know people that can help you out with that empty space problem and any extra time you might have with nothing to do:)…Dave.
 

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Some guys have all the luck. Hope you make good use of it. Nope that baby's gonna be a part of your shop for ever. That little baby will do tons of jobs , don't underestimate her quality or abilities. Wish I had the same kind of luck . I'm jealous YUPP wish it was mine.
 

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Great score Mike.
Yup you stole it at that price!

Those worm-drive saws are great, with the blade on the left it is much easier for right-handers to actually see the blade and cut line. They are also heavier and torquier....

In fact, I have never understood why most saws have the blade on the right. They always feel like a "left-handed saw" to me.

Congratulations!
-brino
 
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Great score Mike.
Yup you stole it at that price!
Those worm-drive saws are great, with the blade on the left it is much easier for right-handers to actually see the blade and cut line. They are also heavier and torquier....
In fact, I have never understood why most saws have the blade on the right. They always feel like a "left-handed saw" to me.
Congratulations!
-brino
Thank you Brino!
i still have another skill 77 that was my grandfathers, but it's much older possibly 1940's wartime or slightly older.
it runs on 115 vac or 115 vdc, common for the time of manufacture from what i understand.
the old saw needs some lovin' the motor is kinda weak to todays standards of power, but it sure sounds nice when it's working.
i agree with your sentiments regarding the blade placement on most saws being "left handed".
i stand to the left of the blade when i cut, the cut view port on my other saws are usually not visible and i use the "Force" to do most of my cuts.
i'm trying real hard to be a Jedi, but the blade being on the correct side will turn a novice into intermediate in a few cuts!

Some guys have all the luck. Hope you make good use of it. Nope that baby's gonna be a part of your shop for ever. That little baby will do tons of jobs , don't underestimate her quality or abilities. Wish I had the same kind of luck . I'm jealous YUPP wish it was mine.
Thank you Silverbullet,
it was a combination of luck and luck that i got this little baby.
almost divine intervention now that i look at it.
the probability of a new machine from the early 80's landing in my garage, is astronomical- there were not many made and to get a pristine example astounds me.
the Taiwanese are good machine manufacturers, i have no issue with the quality of the mill :)

i'll tell you a secret,
you can find things too, just keep a tireless search- then have a friend tell you (or send a link to) where it is ;)
 

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Wow,
Great find. I'm green with envy.:) good luck and I know it has a excellent keeper now.
Cheers
Martin


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Great score on the mill, and thanks for posting the video. The horizontal feature should be very handy. Cheers, Mike
 

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Wow,
Great find. I'm green with envy.:) good luck and I know it has a excellent keeper now.
Cheers
Martin
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Thank you Martin, i feel very luck to have such a nice machine!

Great score on the mill, and thanks for posting the video. The horizontal feature should be very handy. Cheers, Mike
Thank you Mike!
i'm thinking of a project as we speak to utilize the horizontal arbor for testing purposes
i'll be sure to insert videos of the machining processes upon completion.
 

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Cool little machine, and looked to be in great shape. Forgot to tell you yesterday at your shop tour YOU SUCK!!!
 

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Cool little machine, and looked to be in great shape. Forgot to tell you yesterday at your shop tour YOU SUCK!!!
Thank You Jon, it was a pleasure to have you here.
you are welcome here anytime :grin:
 
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