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Today I have collected the heavy 10 that I unexpectedly won with a speculative bid on e-bay after (placed after to much beer). I must say it is a very aptly named machine, especially when you need to take it out of a small cellar up a narrow stair. With a 4'6" bed it is probably rather to big to fit in my garage without a major re-design, or evicting my wifes' car (a definite non starter) but it did seem like a good idea at the time.
I can't say I have examined anything too closely yet, as there is a fair amount of degreasing/cleaning to do (at least there is not to much rust) but I am sure the tailstock is a lash up from a different type of lathe, and I am not convinced that the the tailstock end foot is original as it seems a bit lightweight compared to the rest of the castings and the way it attached to the chip pan and lathe bed seems a bit shoddy. I suppose it is not overly important as long as the foot is the right length to set the lathe level; there was no way of telling in the cellar as the floor was very uneven and seemed to slope. Other potential problems include the gear train- where someone seems to have made some 'compound' gears by 'welding' (best guano standard) some of the wheels to short bushings, additionally the gear case cover and the bull gear cover are missing but I guess that is not surprising or particularly unusual. The good bits are that there does not seem to be an obvious wear ridge on the bed where the saddle stops and just about everything turns freely with no noticeable play in any of the bearings, there was even oil in most of the oilers. The back gear eccentric is the exception and is reluctant to move but I have not tried that hard yet, just applied some penetrating oil. The saddle/apron seems to be ok, split nuts engage etc and the clutch moves and the single tumbler QC box all moves OK, everything it's just grubby.
I already owe a number of you my thanks for the many useful posts, without which I would have had no idea how to get the thing apart, but I am looking for some more advice. While trying to get the under-drive apart I could not get the cradle shaft out (no doubt adding significantly to the weight of the understand). The parts list in the downloads area indicates that there is a locking collar and grub screw securing the shaft (form 917-C parts 15&16) but I could not see one and I did not want to break anything by excessive application of tool no 1. It may be the the lathe pre dates the parts list, if so does anyone know how the shaft is secured, is there a taper pin or grub screw in the cradle or do I just need to heat up the cradle where the shaft passes through (probably not to much there seem to be some alloy bushings in the understand at either end of the shaft) and beat it out? If it helps the bed-way no is 96736 and a tally plate on the under-drive door claims that the lathe was supplied in 1941 (I have no idea if this is consistent with the bed way serial no), the under-drive housing has 1153B stamped on the top. Any and all advice gratefully received.
Thanks
Today I have collected the heavy 10 that I unexpectedly won with a speculative bid on e-bay after (placed after to much beer). I must say it is a very aptly named machine, especially when you need to take it out of a small cellar up a narrow stair. With a 4'6" bed it is probably rather to big to fit in my garage without a major re-design, or evicting my wifes' car (a definite non starter) but it did seem like a good idea at the time.
I can't say I have examined anything too closely yet, as there is a fair amount of degreasing/cleaning to do (at least there is not to much rust) but I am sure the tailstock is a lash up from a different type of lathe, and I am not convinced that the the tailstock end foot is original as it seems a bit lightweight compared to the rest of the castings and the way it attached to the chip pan and lathe bed seems a bit shoddy. I suppose it is not overly important as long as the foot is the right length to set the lathe level; there was no way of telling in the cellar as the floor was very uneven and seemed to slope. Other potential problems include the gear train- where someone seems to have made some 'compound' gears by 'welding' (best guano standard) some of the wheels to short bushings, additionally the gear case cover and the bull gear cover are missing but I guess that is not surprising or particularly unusual. The good bits are that there does not seem to be an obvious wear ridge on the bed where the saddle stops and just about everything turns freely with no noticeable play in any of the bearings, there was even oil in most of the oilers. The back gear eccentric is the exception and is reluctant to move but I have not tried that hard yet, just applied some penetrating oil. The saddle/apron seems to be ok, split nuts engage etc and the clutch moves and the single tumbler QC box all moves OK, everything it's just grubby.
I already owe a number of you my thanks for the many useful posts, without which I would have had no idea how to get the thing apart, but I am looking for some more advice. While trying to get the under-drive apart I could not get the cradle shaft out (no doubt adding significantly to the weight of the understand). The parts list in the downloads area indicates that there is a locking collar and grub screw securing the shaft (form 917-C parts 15&16) but I could not see one and I did not want to break anything by excessive application of tool no 1. It may be the the lathe pre dates the parts list, if so does anyone know how the shaft is secured, is there a taper pin or grub screw in the cradle or do I just need to heat up the cradle where the shaft passes through (probably not to much there seem to be some alloy bushings in the understand at either end of the shaft) and beat it out? If it helps the bed-way no is 96736 and a tally plate on the under-drive door claims that the lathe was supplied in 1941 (I have no idea if this is consistent with the bed way serial no), the under-drive housing has 1153B stamped on the top. Any and all advice gratefully received.
Thanks