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Hi--has anyone in this group ever used one of these machines? I moved it to my new shop but need to get better pictures of it when I get it settled on a stand and cleaned up. I would like to find some tooling for it and a manual. Dave dec 2010 shop pictures to sort 056.jpg dec 2010 shop pictures to sort 055.jpg

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Dave,
I would go right to Tony with that one.
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Dave,
I would go right to Tony with that one.
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Dan--I know this is an older thread, but I never knew which Tony were you talking about ? --Dave
 

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Sorry---I sent email and pictures to Tony --but never heard anything from him--also sent pictures of my small unidentified mill but no response---maybe someone eventually will know more about them and answer threads--Dave
 

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I have one and use it to cut pinions. I spent $300.00 and purchased an old machine.
Several components are missing so I made what I needed. I made a rod for holding #8 collets
for holding the work piece. I use it mainly for cutting clock pinions. Patrick
 

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I have one and use it to cut pinions. I spent $300.00 and purchased an old machine.
Several components are missing so I made what I needed. I made a rod for holding #8 collets
for holding the work piece. I use it mainly for cutting clock pinions. Patrick
Patrick--can you take pictures of yours----and what size are #8 collets? are they real small? --very interesting---I don't have any cutters for my machine and have no idea where to find them---thanks if you can post some pictures ----Dave
 

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Hello Dave, I would like a couple of days to get the information to you. I have copies of the manuals, extra cutters,
and I need to get the measurements for the collet holder. The collets I use are #8 jeweler lathe collets.
As I said your machine is newer and more complete then mine. If I might ask where did you get it, what was the cost and how do you plan to use it.
If your in the United States you can give me your number and we can talk. Patrick Spencer Sunnyvale Ca
 

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I took some more pictures of my pinion cutting machine before I start cleaning it up---wow does it have many mechanisms and quality workmanship-----it was made in Switzerland----Dave

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WOW! That is one very complex piece of equipment. I would love to see a video of it in operation.
 

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Bechler was if not still the epitome of Swiss automatic lathes. In my time they ran off of cams that were cut on a special Bechler machine. It took a good amount of knowledge to cut the cam set up and run them. The ones I'm familiar with made very small parts. It's all done by CNC now I believe. I would think that machine would be a beauty for a clock/watch maker. Take good care of it.
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Hello Dave, I enjoyed your set of pictures, again your machine is more current then mine.
I copied the book and have a set of cutters for you. I'll get it in the mail this weekend.
Check to see if you have some index plates. I didn't see them with the cutter.
I'll get the pictures this week. Patrick
 

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Check to see if you have some index plates. I didn't see them with the cutter.
I'll get the pictures this week. Patrick
Patrick--I didn't get any accessories or index plates---just got the machine as is---------*hopefully another member that builds clocks has one of these machines with extra parts.-----Dave
 

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Dave, Making the index plates is very easy if you have a dividing head. I am also sending youa part that I don't know the name of that works with the 10 count index plate.I am also making a copy of the index plates so you can see how simple they are.Patrick
 

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Thanks a lot Patrick--it sounds like you know a lot about this machine and that is why I started this thread--when I bought this unique machine I didn't even know what it was for--just that it had my head happily spinning trying to figure out why it had so many dovetail features and special cams--I thought since it was made in Switzerland and so complicated and intricate that it was for clock or watchmaking--so thanks for helping me with knowledge and information on it--very appreciated---Dave
 

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Hello Dave, I'm glad I can help. I have a friend that said I'll never get it to work.
Because of his challenge I now have it running. As I said I just took each problem solved it and moved to
the next. Patrick
 

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Hello Dave, I'm glad I can help. I have a friend that said I'll never get it to work.
Because of his challenge I now have it running. As I said I just took each problem solved it and moved to
the next. Patrick
Ya just gotta love them neighbors who never seem to get anything done, but can tell you it won't ever work if you ask em...

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Hello Dave, The manual and cutters are on there way to you. I didn't make it
to the Post Office on Saturday as planned. I hope this helps.
By the was they gave me a tracking number 9114901159815993579293.
Enjoy Patrick
 

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Looks like I'll have to plan a trip to Rochester in the near future so I can lay my eyeballs on this piece of mechanical wizardry!
 
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