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That looks like a great machine-buy it right away! I believe it's very versatile
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I have a Fray mill, but a simpler model than that one; yes, they are very versatile, mine has a 30 taper spindle, but some had B&S spindle tapers. They have larger way surfaces than Bridgeports, and are generally heavier, they have a planetary back gear in the driven pulley and have quite a broad speed range, they were made in Los Angeles, Ca.
 

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I emailed the owner.
 
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If it was local I would buy if I had the cash..
 

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Should I be concerned with the #7 B&S taper? It only allows up to 1/2 diameter collets. The draw bar is 3/8. If this had the 30 tapper I would already have in my shop. I only have room for 1 mill. It looks like a very interesting machine.
 

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I've seen a number of end mills with smaller shanks than the cutter size. You can always use a straight shank collet chuck held in the #7 collet. You can also get end mill holders that use set screws built to hold larger bits. I expect that machine has enough vertical clearance that the couple inches you lose to the chucks won't be a bother. I use an R8-ER40 adapter in my Bridgeport most of the time just because I find that the ER40s are more flexible for my uses.

I've also heard of people sending the spindle in to be reground, so you might be able to do that. It would likely be the most expensive option and you're without a machine till the job is done.
 

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While a #30, 40 or R8 spindle would give you a lot more availability, the B&S #7 does not present a major problem or "major" limitation. A quick search of ebay shows a number of collets available a reasonable price. And as ttabbal stated above, using straight shanks gives you all the options you should need.
It looks like a good deal and price.
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While a #30, 40 or R8 spindle would give you a lot more availability, the B&S #7 does not present a major problem or "major" limitation. A quick search of ebay shows a number of collets available a reasonable price. And as ttabbal stated above, using straight shanks gives you all the options you should need.
It looks like a good deal and price.
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Seller is away for the weekend. I have made arrangements with him to go look and buy Monday afternoon. I’m very excited. Have wanted a mill for a long time.

Thanks
 

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Buy it quick , very versatile mill, in some ways it's better then a Bridgeport . Collets can be found they may have them if you ask , must have been used there ?? There's one in my town the guy wants $2,300 been listed forever too. I tried trading since I'm on SS but nothing I had would do . Even a model 52 Winchester didn't get a thought.
 

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I plan on buying. I’m very excited. The more I read about it the more it sounds like a great mill. It looks to be in decent shape. There is a seller on eBay selling a b&s#7 to ER32 collet. I think I am going to go that rout. I will be able to run up to 3/4 diameter shank tools in that. I am more then good with that.

I will keep you all posted and post pics as as I have them to post. Cheers
 

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You better not buy it, you will make me very jealous.....
 

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The er switch is the way to go i think i have a clausing 8520 and i went from a mt2 to a er20 i dont have a spot to hook up and make chips yet but im fine with working up to 1/2” tools. And i can always make a solid holder on the lathe
 

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You better not buy it, you will make me very jealous.....
I’m sorry Cooter. I hope someday you can find it in your heart to forgive me. This is an advanced apology.
 

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$500? It's a no-brainer! Grab first and analyze later. Let us see some photos when you get it in place.
 

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Got a trailer ready to pick up. Going right after work this afternoon.
 

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Good luck with the purchase and move.
 

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I got the mill home. Still on the trailer. That’s where it’s staying till I can make some room. It is filthy. Needs some minor repairs and it would be nice to reprint the table. All in all I’m happy. It’s going to be a fun project. In the end I will have a nice knee mill with some mass. I’ll post some down and dirty pics tomorrow.

Cheers everyone
 

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This is my ancient mill, an Index Super 55! :)

 

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Congrats! It looks better already.
 

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I got the mill home. Still on the trailer. That’s where it’s staying till I can make some room. It is filthy. Needs some minor repairs and it would be nice to reprint the table. All in all I’m happy. It’s going to be a fun project. In the end I will have a nice knee mill with some mass. I’ll post some down and dirty pics tomorrow.

Cheers everyone

Pictures or it didn't happen!
 

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Congats, sounds like a solid heavy winner!!
Very exciting times as you contemplate all the new possibilities.
Whats the 1st intended project using the mill?
Best of luck getting it fit in and moved.
 

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Pics. What does everyone think about the damage to the table. I want to have it ground. EAE38D91-0363-4728-B07F-03D743D292CD.jpeg 21135929-EE65-45CB-82DE-8059B4ADEF51.jpeg 424B9AA5-EB8E-47C2-8976-8E0BD9A48E6A.jpeg 3CDD0FE6-4AE8-4A38-B7F5-CA04CDE8B108.jpeg C3E4F438-7813-4475-97DD-62D790FFDA00.jpeg 6C4B794E-02C7-4F1A-B320-27BFDA28803C.jpeg 89F06257-C18B-4AA1-9718-EA2141073A0F.jpeg 23785D44-AF34-4C30-8374-18156451D419.jpeg 09F3D32F-A05B-4622-9088-A758F7FC9254.jpeg
 

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I'm afraid that table damage is irreversible and will permanently take a lot of precision out of the original machine.
 

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Is that an actual step in the table or just a line from a vice sitting there for a while.
 

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The damage to the table looks like it could be ground out, might be pricy though.
 
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