What Is An Craftsman 101.2048?

matthew-s

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Minimally I know it's a 6 X 18 lathe. I've found only one or two references to that specific model number on the interwebs.

Can anyone tell me anything about it? How does it differ from the other seemingly more common model numbers?

Thanks!
 
Thanks. I had found those pages. One of them acknowledges 2048, but does not indicate what is unique about that model.

I can at least tell it has the sleeve rather than roller bearings.

Power cross feed is for facing correct? I believe all of these had power carriage feed for threading, right?
 
Yes, using loose change gears. Atlas did not offer a QC box on their 6" lathes. There is an old article that I believe was published in Popular Mechanics of a home built quick-change but it hardly seems worth the effort.
 
Mathew,

There is no such thing as a "101.2048". "2048" is the important or unchanging part of the Sears Catalog Number for the Atlas built 101.07301. Which is the 6x18 lathe with 1"-8 spindle nose threads and sleeve spindle bearings that Atlas built for Sears from 1939 through 1957 (catalog year). The characters shown in the catalogs prefixed to the 4-digit or five digit number (like 99 PM, 99 AM, etc. ) define some things like shipping requirements (i.e., Motor Freight only, etc.) and those codes sometimes changed over the years. But the all numeric part of the catalog number usually didn't change unless the model number also changed. It wasn't until sometime around the end of WW2 that Sears started using catalog numbers that partially matched the model numbers. This was not changed retroactively and the earliest Atlas machines that I know of that were done this way are 99 AM 2743 for the 101.27430 12x24 and 99 AM 2744 for the 101.27440 12x36 (the two early 12" with QCGB) and the QCGB itself, 99 A 02014 for 101.20140. That was in the 1951 catalogs. This was also the first time that they assigned unique catalog numbers to different bed lengths. Prior to that, for example, 101.07403 was the model number for the 12" Timken bearing lathe with power cross feed, regardless of whether it had a 36", 42", 48" or 54" bed.
 
Hello Robert D.
You said: "There is no such thing as a "101.2048"."

Can you comment on this passage: "The maker's Type designations used on these machines included: 101.20140, 101.2048, 101.2048F, 101.2120, 101.2140 and 101.M1518 (for a special mica undercut version for electric repair-shop use) and the very early (and rather different) Type 101.07300 and 101.0730 etc) that employed an integral countershaft unit." ?

from http://www.lathes.co.uk/craftsman6inchmk1/

Spiral_Chips
 
Yep. First, the "Maker" associated with "101" was Atlas. "101" is a Sears Roebuck & Co Contractor Code. And Atlas never used any Model numbers that included "101.". So some of the numbers are the retailer's model numbers.and the rest aren't as written anything.

Second, aside from the short-lived 101.07300 (only one year, a machine with a 3/4"-16 spindle nose threads and no back gears) and 101.20140 (the first of three QCGB retrofit kits for 12" lathes built by Atlas and sold by Sears), I don't know how they came up with the rest. As I wrote earlier, 2048 is the numeric part of the catalog # for the 101.07301 (Model #). 2048F I have no idea. 9H 2120N is the 1st catalog # for the 101.21200 which is the same as the Atlas 3950. 99KT 2140N is one of the catalog #'s used for the 101.21400 which is the same as the Atlas 618. 101.M1518 I have no idea. 101.0730 might be really 109.0703. the first AA 6" which unlike most, was a 6x18. Otherwise, I don't know.

Third, it's mostly all wrong. Like the impression that the first MK2 6" had a Zamak headstock, which it was actually the last few.
 
Wow. Thanks for all that. So I suspect what I'm looking at is a 101.07301 then. I'm headed to look at it tonight. Any recommendations on what to check knowing I don't have a dial indicator or other tools with me?
 
Sorry, I didn't get back in here in time for you to read anything before you left for the look-see. But you really do need both a 0-1" micrometer and a dial indicator set in order to accurately determine spindle and bed condition.
 
Well, maybe I got over excited but I committed to buy, leaving a deposit. It was very well cared for, sold by the original owner who has had it since high school. It seemed legit.

I have a dial indicator on a clamp (rather than magnetic) base. I suppose I could put a drill bit in the chuck and see what the runout looks like?

Any other easy / non destructive tests?
 
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