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hello i'm new here and not working in my shop much anymore due to health but I thought i would post a few pics of a project that is not completed yet and I have been working on for more than 4 years when health permits this is the yulee sugar mill in crystal river florida it was made by the novelty iron works in new york and shipped to florida the mill only ran for 10 years before the north blew up the plantantion with gun boats. the mill probably only ran 10 times once a year around christmas at harvest and was abandoned after the plantation was destroyed and slavery abollished. the mill was picked apart probably by blacksmiths as a source of metal the earliest photos i can find show it with most of the parts small enough to remove already gone. so it took me a lot of research and by locating mounting holes on the original frame i was able to compare other engines of the time and locate the missing parts in their correct locations I intend to donate it to a museum in the town it is located in if I ever get it done
It will run on as little a 3 psi and the gov does work there are a lot of parts made but not mounted
the only parts I did not make are the small screws cnc was not used untill after the engine parts were completed the cylinder was cast as a block and machined out
I made all my gear cutters and tooling i started with only a small lathe and mill and no tooling so most of my tooling i made myself not able to afford
I am not a machinist and enjoyed the ability to change the plans as mistakes arose lol
I used my change gears to make an index at the beginning
I know have managed to build a sherline cnc lathe and mill that help a lot
If i cant finish this I'm going to try to find someone locally to complete it possibly
nuff said I have a lot more pics if interested
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Hi Steve,

Welcome to the forum. That is an great project. I have never seen a engine driven sugar mill before.

I saw my first sugar cane mill here in middle Tennessee at the state fair about ten or so years ago. It was driven by a mule walking in a circle around the mill. It kind of bogs my head down to think about doing fields of cane that way. I just recently saw two more of this mill type at the scrap yard. Before anyone asks I was told they had been adopted and were to be restored. I love the old machines that made this country and hate to see them go. Its sad no one saved the one you are modeling but good you are saving it in another form for others to see and enjoy.

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Hi Steve,

Welcome to the forum. That is an great project. I have never seen a engine driven sugar mill before.

I saw my first sugar cane mill here in middle Tennessee at the state fair about ten or so years ago. It was driven by a mule walking in a circle around the mill. It kind of bogs my head down to think about doing fields of cane that way. I just recently saw two more of this mill type at the scrap yard. Before anyone asks I was told they had been adopted and were to be restored. I love the old machines that made this country and hate to see them go. Its sad no one saved the one you are modeling but good you are saving it in another form for others to see and enjoy.

Benny
thank you benny
it took a lot of research to get to where i am on it no two steam engines of that time were alike the technology was changing so fast by the time the castings cooled new plans were on the table
the novelty iron works that built this, built ships. they built the cast iron armour that was on the monitor from the historic battle of the first iron clads of the cival war
thanks
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Jumps 4 That is a most commendable piece of workmanship, Thanks for sharing
 

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I live in Citrus County, Fl. about 20 miles or so from the Yulee Sugar Mill. Nice to see some one making a model. Every time I am in the area I stop and walk around the old mill.

If you come to see the mill make sure to stop in the Homossasa Wildlife Park right down the road.
 

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Interesting to read about something I've been to :)
My Grandpa used to live in Crystal River so I've been to the sugar mill and the wildlife park. Both are worthwhile sites to visit.

Steve you've got your work cut out for you, just keep plugging away...steady wins the race...even if you're like me and steady by jerks ;) .
 

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That good sir is way beyond the coolest thing I ever saw. If I had had that mill, I might still be living with my Last GF :) I'd have moved the motorcycle out of the living room and installed a boiler in the Fireplace :) I truly think a Sugar Mill like that could have been the perfect Fix for our Relationship! First it would have got rid of that Motorcycle she HATED in the living room! Seconds we would have spent a LOT more time in front of a Fire with light twinkling off the governor balls (how Romantic)

Sad truth is if I had the skill to recreate that mill it would be running 24/7 in the living room
 

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thanks guys
this is no where near done if you look close you can see parts that are just thrown on
"I had to see it run" so I hurried some pieces they will be replaced
this motor only has one main bearing on the engine frame so I had to build the next frame and bearing mount everything before I even knew if it ran
wish I could post a short video It sounds so kewl running at 5 psi, you can hear the air in the piston change direction
this is my second motor. nothing from the flywheel to the cylinder was made with cnc I could not afford blocks of aluminum so i melted down things and poured blocks and roundstock moldmaking is an art i'm no good at, yet. I'm no machinist this is simply sculpture with machine tools I have a pile of parts that look like they might fit....
I built a prototype it ran first try but it looked like a box of rocks in motion lol
but it gave me the courage to try
hey jimbob i'll give you a holler the next time i'm going to the mill to measure or something. I'm in port richey
maybe have some coffee

best wishes
steve

here is a pick of the prototype
 

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I hope this works i'm trying to post a youtube of my sugar mill running
steve


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Jump, that is really a wonderful job. Love to have the plans of the engine. I might be able to make it and maybe turn a ferris wheel? Very sweet and a great job. Thanks for sharing.

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hi jerry
thank you for your interest
there are no plans everything was measured off of photos and cut to scale
all the work from the flywheel in was done by hand and from the flywheel out was done with a sherline cnc the only drawings i have are for the cnc parts.
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thanks nelson
if your going to be down here shoot me a line you can come by and watch it run.
i have not finished it yet it is gathering dust while i build up my tooling. I started it over 4 years ago working in spurts, i need to finish it and donate it to the museum there just to get it out of the shop, i'm out of room.
all i need to make is the conveyers and the boiler (it's fake) i have the parts i just havent taken the time
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I'm still working on my shop and i havent returned to working on my model but i had a request on youtube for more pics of the model and the build so i located some of the pics i used and made a slideshow. I thought it turned out pretty well...
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"this is a photo slide show of some of the photographs i used to photo measure and build my yulee sugar mill model. there are also photos of building some of the model parts. I went to the mill and took measurments then from the photos and photo measuring software i scaled the parts to size . there are the exact same number of teeth on the gears as the original. i also researched the missing parts and by the bolt holes that were left in the frames i was able to reconstruct a close representation of how it would have looked when built. there is also a video of the model running here. any guestion contact me at hobby-machinist.com, i'm jumps4 there.
thanks for looking
steve"


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That is an amazing peice of work there. Really like to see such craftmanship and the continuation of an historic engine.
 

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I pulled the Yulee Sugar Mill model out and have started working on it again.
I made a shaft coupling yesterday and the braces for the roller mill section today.
I made 6 of the braces figuring I'd mess up somewhere but I was lucky and they all fit.
It is a lot harder making these little parts than big ones for me. that's why I burn out working on the model.
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Looks good Steve
I never really noticed those tie bars between the roller caps before. That brass really brings em to notice

Cheers Phil
 

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thank you Phil
Today I drilled and tapped 2, 0-80 holes in the frame and installed the boiler feed pump on the main frame . The drill bit for these screws is .0468 and I turned the tap back and forth with my fingers to cut the threads.
I then measured all the axis distances to make a pump pivot to work the pump up and down
the pivot isn't finished but the measurements look right.

thanks for viewing
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I'm still working on the pump linkage only 2 more pieces to make and a bit of cleanup.
If you look at the second pic you can see the pipe fitting elbows inside the frame on the pump. I'll probable start plumbing next.
I'll do a short video of everything running after I make the last 2 parts.
thanks for viewing
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Stunned silence.
I must have joined the wrong website: I need the one where you just pound it with a hammer until it fits. (lol)
Magnificent work!
 

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I too have been following this thread, but haven't said anything yet. Steve, this is truly a wonderful model, and your work sets the bar a little higher for the rest of us! Thanks for the excellent photos and the video, too.
 

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this morning I completed the last 2 linkage pieces for the boiler feed pump and did a video of everything working. sorry It's a bit shaky and a lot of air noise, I just pushed a hose in the regulator and it pops out at the end of the video. I'll start on the boiler, valves and plumbing next. I ordered 1000 rivets......
here are sites with information on the original mill builders and the Yulee Plantation where it is located.
Stillman Allen & Co. Novelty Iron Works : http://machine-history.com/node/511
Yulee Plantation : http://www.homosassahistory.com/Yulee.cfm

thanks for viewing
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What a beautiful machine. Thank you for sharing.
 

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That is way beyond cool. Thanks for posting.

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Steve, I don't think your local museum knows just how lucky they are to be receiving such a beautiful model. That is some fine work there.
 

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I have started to make the T's, valves, and flanges for the plumbing. this is hard trying to just solder one point and not have everything fall apart. I'm to shaky for this stuff I did find brass castings of some of the fittings, I just have to machine out the center holes. There are a lot of parts left to make, pressure safety valve, several check valves, smaller gate valves, several valve handles.....
some of this will be real and some is just for show, the mill will be running on air.
the plate in the pictures that the valves are on is the front of the boiler, I haven't machined it out round yet.
thanks for viewing
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That is one cool model, thanks for sharing.

Would love to have something like that for my desk at home!
 

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today I made the pressure safety release valve and started laying out the drawing to drill 516 rivet holes in the boiler housing.
thanks for viewing
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Today I drilled the rivet holes in the boiler tube. I was amazed to see my mill drill 516 holes .062 in diameter in 1 hr and 20 min. Ya gotta love CNC. the next surprise was it did it with only 2 harbor freight bits...
today the rivets showed up in the mail, 1000 of them and they are not .0625 they are .060 so I have to swedge the shank of everyone of them to make them drive in. more fun
thanks for viewing
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I have been making parts for the steam dome.
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