First Turning, Clausing 6316 Lathe

First, are you running the spindle in the correct direction? It looks like the tool bit/carbide insert is rubbing more than it is cutting. The finish is extremely uneven and burnished looking. If correct spindle direction, I would try a different cutter/tool bit, preferably a HSS one and put it on center. And I suppose that something about the carriage could be loose and causing your problem. And lastly machine harmonics, but the poor finish you have does not match that problem…Good Luck, Dave.
 
coolidge, interesting shaped insert, what tool holder do these work with, What supplier do you use?
Thanks

Joe

Those are inserts for a 45 degree face mill, Iscar SEHT 43AFNP aka SEHT 1204AFNP the carbide grade is IC20.

For turning on my 12x36 lathe I have been using Korloy ccgt21.51 inserts. I purchased the Glanze 1/2 inch turning tool kit from Grizzly $149, a number of boring bars also take these inserts. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Glanze-Turning-Tool-Set-1-2/H5681

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Dave, just to verify, when I run the lathe in the forward direction, looking from the tailstock to the chuck, the chuck is turning in the counter-clockwise direction. I have varied my tool height and changed to other carbide tools and the pattern is the same. I do not have any HSS tooling at the moment.

Thanks

Joe
 
Try slowing your spindle speed way down, try 200 rpm or below I turn aluminum this slow no problem. Looking at the picture, to me something appears to be loose. Tool, tool post, cross slide, carriage, spindle, chuck, gunk under your insert, you want things as rigid as possible.
 
Joe,
A couple of other things you might want to check on:
1) Are the gibs on your compound slide tight?
2) Is the compound itself tight
3) what angle is the compound set at?

The pattern you are getting looks like the tool is either getting pushed back towards you or deflected downward by the cutting forces.
 
Dave, just to verify, when I run the lathe in the forward direction, looking from the tailstock to the chuck, the chuck is turning in the counter-clockwise direction. I have varied my tool height and changed to other carbide tools and the pattern is the same. I do not have any HSS tooling at the moment.

Thanks

Joe
Sure looks like something isn't rigid. WHat happens when you take a deeper cut? How are your spindle bearings?
 
Joe, I think this is a very good thread that many new guys can relate to. Your example looks pretty extreme, so when you find the cause, it will poroably help many others (myself included). My first thought was that your feed rate was too fast, but magnifying your pic showed that the grooves and ridges were straight across the work, whereas, feeding too fast would cause the grooves to be slanted like a fine thread. Jim Dawson said, "Try dropping the tool BELOW center a bit.", now Jim definitety knows his stuff, but I wish he would have explained the reason for his recomendation (how about it Jim?). OK, I'm going out on a limb here, and give my newbe opinion. If your tool doesn't have enough front clearence, maybe it is rubbing (causing the high spots, or ridges) and then at times the cutting edge grabs and cuts (causing the groves, or low spots). If this is indeed whats going on, then lowering the tool, as Jim suggested, would probably solve the problem. If thats not it, them as Chips&More said, "something must be loose", causing the tool to bounce making the tiny grooves and ridges, However, as I said before "what the h--- do I know". The main reason for my post is to challange the "pros" here to find an answer for you and all of us!! Waiting for answers, JR49

EDIT, wow , that shows you just how slow I type! Coolidge, Henry, and John, all have great answers. PLEASE be sure and tell us What works. Thanks JR49
 
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Thanks JR49,

This Afternoon when I get off of work I will run a dial indicator on a piece of drill rod in the chuck. I adjusted the gibs the other night but I will check again
When I purchased the lathe the owner turned a piece of steel between the chuck and tail stock and the cut was very smooth. I have the same problem with aluminum on my mini lathe, so I am guessing it could be the index and tool holder, I will clean it up and try again.

Thanks

Joe
 
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