G0509g 16x40 Drool Thread

coolidge said:
Yeah over 3,000 lbs and very top heavy not happening, in fact considering how top heavy it will be I may just get a rigger to deal with this.
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Where is the excitement in that?;) Actually handling is not bad as long as it's still bolted to the pallet. Once off the pallet then things get more interesting. Lifting from the top is almost mandatory. My favorite way of moving mid-weight machines when working with low ceilings, is to get them sitting on the floor, then just drag them across the floor with a come-a-long. Anchor bolts in the floor can be your friend. I've moved a lot a machinery that way. I wish I had pictures of moving my machines in and out of my houseboat, including a 9x42 BP clone. That was an adventure, but actually only took about 15 minutes to get it out the 36 inch door and sitting on the deck where the crane barge could hook on to it.
 
JimDawson said:
Where is the excitement in that?;) Actually handling is not bad as long as it's still bolted to the pallet. Once off the pallet then things get more interesting. Lifting from the top is almost mandatory. My favorite way of moving mid-weight machines when working with low ceilings, is to get them sitting on the floor, then just drag them across the floor with a come-a-long. Anchor bolts in the floor can be your friend. I've moved a lot a machinery that way. I wish I had pictures of moving my machines in and out of my houseboat, including a 9x42 BP clone. That was an adventure, but actually only took about 15 minutes to get it out the 36 inch door and sitting on the deck where the crane barge could hook on to it.
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When I moved to my current place 2 years ago, I hired a rigger (best in town) to do the move from old place to new and do the install. Two steep driveways, tight turns, me with bad back and limited fork lift experience and no trailer seemed like the prudent thing to do. First in the new place was the BP style mill, they placed it on floor of entry to garage on 4 teflon pads that had shoulders to help keep them in place, then they took Dawn dish soap and coated floor, and then just pushed it by hand 25 feet to its new home, lifted it up with a toe jack, removed teflon pads and we were done. The EE being short, squat and top heavy got rolled on machinery movers then place on floor with toe jacks. They spent more time wiping up soap than they did moving the stuff. I used em again for my new lathe last month, very funny, I am the smallest job they had done since last time they were here. If would have been good for my ego to do it myself, but given the tricky drives, side slope and down hill, I am glad someone with 30 years experience was driving fork lift and doing the brain work.

michael
 
Michael what did they charge you? Just looking for some pricing info for when I call our local riggers.
 
JimDawson said:
Where is the excitement in that?;)
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Jim you obviously have spent little time driving on my side of the river, remember it was only months ago one of those morons charged out from a side street and smashed into the side of my F150 at full throttle totaling it. :cussing:
 
coolidge said:
Jim you obviously have spent little time driving on my side of the river, remember it was only months ago one of those morons charged out from a side street and smashed into the side of my F150 at full throttle totaling it. :cussing:
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I remember that now, yeah, that's exciting. I try to avoid that area and Portland also. I like it out here in the country and there's a reason I drive a 7800 lb truck.
 
coolidge said:
Michael what did they charge you? Just looking for some pricing info for when I call our local riggers.
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I hired the guy with the most experience, he charged me $1100 to move the mill and lathe 20 miles, 1 mile of it on narrow gravel road, nasty hilly driveway at both locations. Took about 4.5 hours start to finish for him and his helper. He is a large crane and rigging outfit, this was small potatoes, he actually had to go rent a small fork lift and trailer cause his stuff is all huge by comparison. I could of had it done for less but this guy is who you call when you want it done right with no drama. He did the Grizzly lathe last month for $700. Fed Ex freight delivered to his shop, he unloaded it, put it in his shop for night and next day rented trailer and fork lift and brought it all out and did the install. It was a no brainer for him, but the way he side shifted lathe while on trailer, took a new bite, side shifted again repeatedly from side of trailer to get the lathe past the wheels so he could snatch it from the side was pretty snazzy. Literally the lathe never knew it was being moved, coming down the driveway with no straps on lathe the lathe did not even budge an inch going over and expansion joint in drive. It was worth it to me, I know I paid top dollar but I got the job that I wanted done with no issues. I have a friend who rented, toe jacks, machinery rollers, fork lift and by the time he was done he was into his lathe install for $550, I figured it was worth the extra couple hundred to have it done by a pro and if there had been a FU, it would have been on his dime, that was all understood ahead of time.

Now if this had been a Heavy 10, I would have gotten an engine hoist and scraps of teflon and a pinch bar and a friend and done it myself. If you do it yourself try to get a fork lift with long forks, but the rental places don't seem to have them very often it seems.

michael
 
I spoke to a rigger today, they would charge $1,067 which is their 4 hour minimum for 2 men, trailer, fork lift. They will have 2 hours RT travel time to my place up here in the back woods. I would have the lathe shipped to their yard in Oregon, that 'should' save me $600 in sales tax on the lathe since there is no sales tax in Oregon. That would offset the rigging fees nicely leaving me about $467 spent on rigging. Less if you consider I would have to rent a trailer $75, buy some heavy straps, and figure out how to get it off the pallet and moved into position ugh yeah the hell with that. They will bring the lathe out with a fork lift that will fit under a standard garage door and move the lathe into place on skates.

Interestingly it would cost about the same to rig the Haas Mini Mill 2, duly noted.
 
Hey Jim yes that guy posted that lathe for sale a couple weeks ago then withdrew the ad, I saw earlier today that he reposted it. That's a lot of lathe and add-on's for $3,500 which has me wondering what's wrong with it. That DRO is $1,000, plus a VFD plus an Aloris QCTP plus a boat load of Aloris tool holders...so what's the catch? 4 guys including me responded to his last ad, one guy was about to go pick up the lathe when he pulled the ad, said he got a job in for the lathe. I think I'm going to avoid it, that's more that light surface rust.
 
Gunrunner you need to order a set of these for the Z axis hand crank. Bill did you just spit coffee on your monitor? :rofl:

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