Removing the shift lever on a logan 820 lathe

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It's a 1946 820 with taper attachment, S/N 36444.
I have everything else removed from the apron, and I have removed the set screw in the lever, unfortunately not I can't get the lever to budge coming off of the eccentric assembly.
Any suggestions? Is there something I'm missing?
I've tried penetrating oil, and a little bit of heat, but nothing helps.
I even ground the shaft flush with the top of the lever because it looked like someone may have hit it with a hammer many years ago, and I thought it might be mushroomed out causing it to jam, but that didn't help.
Do the parts need to be pressed apart?
BTW, I'm doing a full restore on the lathe and therefore the reason I'm taking everything apart, cleaning, removing old paint and repainting this beauty.
 
If your shift lever/rod is anything like what's on most of these older Logan lathes it will have a stop, or adjustment collar on the opposite end from the nob and it should slide right out. If you haven't got a manual for it yet x all Logan and give them the model number and serial number and get one. I'm restoring a newer model 1935-2 that was sold as a turret lathe. Now it's just a regular lathe.
Mike
 
Oldseabee said:
If your shift lever/rod is anything like what's on most of these older Logan lathes it will have a stop, or adjustment collar on the opposite end from the nob and it should slide right out. If you haven't got a manual for it yet x all Logan and give them the model number and serial number and get one. I'm restoring a newer model 1935-2 that was sold as a turret lathe. Now it's just a regular lathe.
Mike
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Thanks.
I do have the parts list and manual, but it doesn't show anything other than the setscrew attaching it to the eccentric.
I know that sometimes older machines have setscrews that hold in a blind pin that is slightly smaller than the hole in the shaft, not a pressed in pin and although I don't see one in this case, I wasn't sure what might have been done with this prior to me owning it.
 
Take a picture of the area your working on and post it here. Then we can see maybe what up. You are talking about the eccentric in the Apron correct?
 
Oldseabee said:
Take a picture of the area your working on and post it here. Then we can see maybe what up. You are talking about the eccentric in the Apron correct?
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I'm trying to get these two items apart. The only thing listed is the set screw, item 0306 as shown
 
Some of these I have seen were pinned and still had a set screw. If I remember correctly that shaft has to be driven out from the front to the rear and the clutch has to be removed first. Try that.
Mike
 
Here is a parts diagram of my model 1935. There is a Woodruff key, so that handle has to come off first. Then the key removed and then the shaft should go out towards the back. Use a wire brush and clean it yp really good on that handle as it could have been pinned also. If you have to use a bearing puller with the ends ground down to fit in what little clearance there is. I usually put a small short socket under the puller screw setting on a shaft. Also lots of heat with a propane torch then spray withe a quality penatrating oil like deep creep. Let it soak a couple of hours and try again.
Hope this helps. Mike
 

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Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

I was finally able to get the parts separated. Apparently, a previous owner decided that he was going to put a regular key in the slot, and then proceeded to drive it home with a hammer, which split the key, and wedged it into the the slot, and that expanded the slot in the shaft at the outer edge, and this basically jammed it in place.

I took a bench hydraulic press, and a round piece of aluminum bar and, after heating with a torch and slathering it with penetrating oil, was able to slowly press the shaft out of the handle. Now, I will have to dig out the shattered key and put the shaft assembly in a friends lathe and take a rasp to it to lust kiss the surface enough for the handle to go over it. then i will have to clean out the slot and put a new square key in the slot.eccentric.jpg
 
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