Very Old Seneca Falls 9"+ Lathe

[joebiplane]

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I have in my possession, a Seneca falls lathe of unknown age that I believe was once attached to a stand with a drip pan but is now converted to a Bench model. the swing is a tad less than 10" placing it in the 9" lathe catagoryThe condition of the metal and cast iron are all exquisite for an origional very old machine,
The Paint, while not worn through anyplace, has been worn down in several areas. Not to other paint, but down to different coats of the original Black multi coat process as originally applied , according to literature found at Mr. Wells UK web site
The star logo cast into the bed and the brass screw cutting gear chart attached to the head stock are the only bits of information on the lathe that I can find.
ther are no patent dates anywhere on the bed casting. In fact there are no other marks on the casting anywhere excepting the star Logo and 3 stars
The lathe appears to have never had any type of cover over the change gears and has the star handles to facilitate exchanging gears when required.

The keyed lead screw and apron provide for longitudinal power feed as well as cross slide power feed similar to a South Bend model "B". Gears are all excellent and everything works as it was designed albeit the machine is not as quiet as my South bend 9" workshop.
If I am correct that this might be very old machine and somewhat rare, I think it would be a shame to attempt to refinish it as I do with Logan and South bend Lathes. Perhaps it belongs in a museum of some sort
Could anyone provide me with the identification and age and possibly the potential value range for this lathe…
Sincerely,
Joe Larsen

 

[joebiplane]

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To the Group

I have in my possession, a Seneca falls lathe of unknown age that I believe was once attached to a stand with a drip pan but is now converted to a Bench model. the swing is a tad less than 10" placing it in the 9" lathe catagoryThe condition of the metal and cast iron are all exquisite for an origional very old machine,
The Paint, while not worn through anyplace, has been worn down in several areas. Not to other paint, but down to different coats of the original Black multi coat process as originally applied , according to literature found at Mr. Wells UK web site
The star logo cast into the bed and the brass screw cutting gear chart attached to the head stock are the only bits of information on the lathe that I can find.
ther are no patent dates anywhere on the bed casting. In fact there are no other marks on the casting anywhere excepting the star Logo and 3 stars
The lathe appears to have never had any type of cover over the change gears and has the star handles to facilitate exchanging gears when required.

The keyed lead screw and apron provide for longitudinal power feed as well as cross slide power feed similar to a South Bend model "B". Gears are all excellent and everything works as it was designed albeit the machine is not as quiet as my South bend 9" workshop.
If I am correct that this might be very old machine and somewhat rare, I think it would be a shame to attempt to refinish it as I do with Logan and South bend Lathes. Perhaps it belongs in a museum of some sort
Could anyone provide me with the identification and age and possibly the potential value range for this lathe…
Sincerely,
Joe Larsen

Why am I Being told I am a guest and cannot view the photos ion this Post????????? I have reset my pass word and get " Welcome Joe Biplane...but when I try to view my post I am told I cannopt view the page....
Disd I do something BAD ?????
Thanks

 

[joebiplane]

It was part of a trade for some guns. It runs like a top and only needs some gib adjustment on the rear of the carriage.. . Either shimming or gib adjustment screws. I think a gib plate is the best answer . It runs perfectly but has a fair amount of backlash as would be expected. I would really like to find out how old it is.... I was told to look at the patent dates in the casting but there are none !!! three years older than the patent office ????????????)

 

[Old Iron]

Good looking Lathe! Did you email Tony in the UK about it he mite know something, And he mite want to post it on his site.

Paul

 

[joebiplane]

Good looking Lathe! Did you email Tony in the UK about it he mite know something, And he mite want to post it on his site.

Paul

I did, but never got a reply ? he may be busy with other matters