Enco 105-1100 for sale; thoughts?

[mickri]

Does it come with the stand? Not much in the way of tooling. The vice sitting on the left side of the stand looks to be a drill press vise. The other vise that is mounted on the table looks like it might be a 4" machinist vise and it has a swivel base. $750 is not a steal but it is also not out of the ball park either like a lot of the other mill/drills that you have posted. Depending on where it is located it would be 1 to 1 1/2 hours from Bakersfield. And you got a great deal on your lathe. You could do a lot worse but not much better on the price. I guess it all depends on how long you want to search for the ultimate deal. Only you can answer that question.

 

[ARC-170]

Does it come with the stand? Not much in the way of tooling. The vice sitting on the left side of the stand looks to be a drill press vise. The other vise that is mounted on the table looks like it might be a 4" machinist vise and it has a swivel base. $750 is not a steal but it is also not out of the ball park either like a lot of the other mill/drills that you have posted. Depending on where it is located it would be 1 to 1 1/2 hours from Bakersfield. And you got a great deal on your lathe. You could do a lot worse but not much better on the price. I guess it all depends on how long you want to search for the ultimate deal. Only you can answer that question.

It comes with the table it's sitting on. That is way too big for my needs. I may see if he'll lower the price a bit if I don't take it. The seller is a machinist, so he knows what he has. It's not like he's some guy selling his dear departed Dad's mill. It's about a 3 hour drive for me, according to mapping sites. I'll be in Bakersfield this weekend for a soccer game, so I can look at it then; it's about another 90 minutes north.

Has anyone ever heard of Samson? I looked them up and there's one in the UK and another company that does something machine related but not mills like this. I'm not really worried; this is just a Rong Fu clone, but it would be nice to have some more info.

 

[TerryH]

The one in Fresno is available. I asked how flexible he was on the price. He said he sell it to me for $750.
The previous owner probably bought it new and used it for tinkering on airplane and helicopter parts. The shop it is currently at used it for the occasional project. He said it was mainly used as a drill press. He also said some people who used it were not totally proficient and drilled into the vise.
Thoughts?

My table was drilled into many times. The vise was once. A bummer but not a deal breaker in my book. I've debated on repairing the damage but haven't done anything with it as of yet other than to stone the damage to ensure there were no burrs or high spots. I made covers for the table.

 

[ARC-170]

UPDATE:
The Fresno one was sold. I called to say I was coming up today and he told me some local came buy to get it that evening. Th hunt continues...

 

[mickri]

I know that these are not something that you have been looking at but thought that I would throw them out for something else to consider. The first is a small regular knee mill. I don't think that the foot print is any larger than a mill/drill. No idea whether this is an ok mill or not. https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bfs/d/sharp-knee-mill/6714446701.html.

The other is a HF square column mill/drill. Definitely a hobby machine and it has the tilting base which I have read needs to be stiffened. And it is too far away from you. Again just giving you another alternative to consider. https://modesto.craigslist.org/tls/d/drill-mill/6720228592.html

 

[ARC-170]

I know that these are not something that you have been looking at but thought that I would throw them out for something else to consider. The first is a small regular knee mill. I don't think that the foot print is any larger than a mill/drill. No idea whether this is an ok mill or not. https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bfs/d/sharp-knee-mill/6714446701.html.

The other is a HF square column mill/drill. Definitely a hobby machine and it has the tilting base which I have read needs to be stiffened. And it is too far away from you. Again just giving you another alternative to consider. https://modesto.craigslist.org/tls/d/drill-mill/6720228592.html

Thanks, I appreciate it. The knee mill is just too big. I have one in the shop/class and it takes take up more room than the ones I'm looking at. I saw the HF mill. The table may be a bit small. I hesitate to buy a used HF anything; the new stuff is bad enough. However, the big Rong Fu clone gets good reviews, oddly enough. Also, that particular one looks used and abused. I can get a new one with a 25% off coupon for $525 an that seller is asking $400. Besides, he's too far away. These don't come up for sale on CL very often; I suspect it's because they are considered "throw-away". I may re-consider buying a HF one, though. There are plenty of threads on various forums for "fixing" them.

 

[mickri]

Have you checked whether the HF 25% off coupon can be used on a mill/drill? I was planing to use one when I bought my flux core welder until it was pointed out to me in the very fine print that the coupon could not be used on the welder.

 

[TerryH]

Have you checked whether the HF 25% off coupon can be used on a mill/drill? I was planing to use one when I bought my flux core welder until it was pointed out to me in the very fine print that the coupon could not be used on the welder.

The % off coupons do work on the mills.

 

[ARC-170]

UPDATE:
Talked to the seller. She's selling it for her dad who passed away awhile ago. She had help with the pricing. It's been sitting in a barn for 5 years. She was washing it off with water. I gave her my sales pitch and told her these were selling in the $500-$700 range and that I could get a new one for $900. She says she's had a few calls. I told her to keep me posted. I'd be curious to know what she sells it for. Another data point for me. It's about a 2 hour drive for me, so I want to agree on price, or at least get close, before I drive out.

UPDATE:
This one (post 38, green) is still available. I talked to the seller again. $600 was too low when I last spoke to her. I offered $700, which might be on the high side, given the condition, IMHO, but it seems to be the going rate for these machines. She told me she didn't need to sell it and she had a number in mind, but she'd talk to the husband and call me back. Thoughts?

 

[ARC-170]

Have you checked whether the HF 25% off coupon can be used on a mill/drill? I was planing to use one when I bought my flux core welder until it was pointed out to me in the very fine print that the coupon could not be used on the welder.

I just HATE when that happens! All the exclusions are items that I consider more desirable, like the tool boxes. On those, I noticed the prices are not much less that any of the other tool boxes at HD and Lowes.