Er 32 collet set and milling chuck questions

I would look at the size range of end mills, etc. that you plan on using to determine the size of ER chuck you want to use. Since I have an R-8 collet system on my mill, I use an ER-40 collet set for 7/8" and 1" end mills, but on my last mill I prefered day to day useing the ER-32. If you are just going up to 3/4" shanks for general machining of smaller size endmills I would suggest an ER-32 because the chuck is much smaller and a bit easier with regard to tightening the collet down.

If you are using this only for milling with end mills, most end mills come with fixed shank sizes, so you really only need a 1/8" increment set, possible 1/16". DO NOT GET A METRIC SET if you are predominately using it for imperial sized end mills. The 1 mm compressability is possible, but I can say from my own experience and that of others that in practice the TIR suffers when pushed to their limits. It also depends on the type/brand of ER collets you buy. I have several precision ER collets that are for a fixed size end mill/indicator with a narrow +/- window.

Brand wise, I would recommend Techniks first as a high quality mid price collet. Well worth it, although ER collets tend to have tighter specs/TIR than say R-8. So you can do OK with some of the lesser brands. Also sometimes you can pick up an Iscar or other higher end set on eBay occasionally reasonably priced. My ER-32 set is Iscar, my ER-40 is Z-Live which are also very decent, but I would have purchased a Techniks set if it was afforable. My ER-40 system is predominately for my lathe, and I use a 1/32 set to get a full clamping range fo odd size stock. If the mill only I would get the Techniks 1/16" set and be done with it.
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By a decent ER chuck and consider a better nut, either ball bearing like from Metaltech, TECHNIKS 41932 ER32 Power Coat Hex Nut, there are several others. I have ER chucks from Iscar, Showa, and the nickle plate precision ones from Shar's and they all measure under 0.0001" TIR.
 
+1 on the ER40 collet adapter, especially since the machine is 40 taper, capable of doing large and heavy work. I could see a ER32 set if you also bought some 40 taper collets for driving the larger common Imperial straight shank sizes like 7/8, 1, 1 1/8, and 1 1/4". That would be satisfactory. Tightening ER collets to spec takes some effort in the larger sizes if the tooling will be doing heavy work. Things may look somewhat different if it is a CNC machine you are getting, that has automatic tool changers.
 
ER-32 max size is 7/8".
If you have 40 taper definitely go with an ER-40 setup imo.
 
Thank you very much to everyone for the excellent information. I will be getting the Techniks er40 collet set. Their milling chuck does seem like it would provide excellent holding of end mills.

Happy New Year!
 
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After looking into the TIR on various ER40 collet sets, the Techniks has the lowest TIR of 0.0002. Travers reported ETM as 0.0005. I thought that the Techniks set would be considerably more expensive because of the low TIR but as was stated above allindustrial.com had the set for $148.36. Some other Techniks stuff was barely a better deal but the Noga
stuff was very well priced. I love finding good deals on stuff I was going to buy anyway. Thanks again for the help. I will be asking for more help/recommendations when the machine arrives.


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What kind of tooling are you thinking of? Thanks

U Drills, milling cutters, lotsa stuff, companies have made a 32mm ER40 collet specifically to allow ER40 users access to the available tooling in that shank size.
I was discussing this with my tooling supplier and he mentioned what a good idea it was giving wider access to the range of 32mm shank tooling
 
When looking at collets for er40 collet chucks, I see the max size as 1”.
The Techniks milling chuck is labelled as 1.25” and that it 32mm but the reduction sleeves on the Techniks site go up to 1” only and 25mm only.
For me, 1” max capacity should be plenty but I could see finding larger endmills for good priced simply because demand could be lower.
Thanks for the help.
 
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After looking into the TIR on various ER40 collet sets, the Techniks has the lowest TIR of 0.0002. Travers reported ETM as 0.0005.
Accuracy claims by tooling makers and sellers, especially of Asian import tooling, are not reliable for the use of choosing one brand over another -- in my experience.
 
I was looking on Maritool.com and see they have an ER40 collet chuck with a 1.05" through hole. Cocentricity is <.0002".
 
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