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Gingery Shaper
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Hi Tim,
No I do NOT. I bought the entire Gingery book set years ago before I had any machines...great reading.
My favourite quote (about hand scraping):
I have done a little aluminum casting, but nothing as grand as those Gingery machine castings.
Although I do have a pile of scrap aluminum behind the shed.
Shapers look like very interesting machines, but I really do NOT have the space. My shop is in a ~20x20 attached garage, with the table saw, three bandsaws, two milling machines, two lathes, the power hacksaw, welding bench, drill press, sheet metal shear and brake, hydraulic press, etc. I don't know that I could have one.
Luckily, I have a local used tool store that has a bin of used tool bits. I believe it was $2.50 each or 5 for $10.
There was everything in that bin; HSS form tools, threading tools, boring bits, and many were old Canada and US made M42 cobalt, etc.
Sometimes I even found new, never ground 3" long bits , in 1/4" and 3/8" square profile.
I picked up many that looked useful and also got some more in their $10 "grab boxes" of assorted stuff.
I likely have enough for my lifetime.....but don't tell my wife!
Let me know if you'd like a couple and I can send some along.
(Send your snail-mail address by PM if interested. No charge!)
That was the only store I went to weekly.....and now I am missing it bad!
It is a small business, so I hope they survive...
No. I hope they thrive, and I promise to do my part by spending money as soon as they open again!
Actually, that store had an old shaper a little over a year ago that needed a bunch of cleanup.
I might have taken it, if I did not already have too much on the go.
I could see doing that in retirement...cleaning up machines for re-sale if the price was right.
I'm not greedy, if I got my cost + a case of beer out of each, I'd be happy!
-brino
No I do NOT. I bought the entire Gingery book set years ago before I had any machines...great reading.
My favourite quote (about hand scraping):
It made me laugh.
I have done a little aluminum casting, but nothing as grand as those Gingery machine castings.
Although I do have a pile of scrap aluminum behind the shed.
Shapers look like very interesting machines, but I really do NOT have the space. My shop is in a ~20x20 attached garage, with the table saw, three bandsaws, two milling machines, two lathes, the power hacksaw, welding bench, drill press, sheet metal shear and brake, hydraulic press, etc. I don't know that I could have one.
Luckily, I have a local used tool store that has a bin of used tool bits. I believe it was $2.50 each or 5 for $10.
There was everything in that bin; HSS form tools, threading tools, boring bits, and many were old Canada and US made M42 cobalt, etc.
Sometimes I even found new, never ground 3" long bits , in 1/4" and 3/8" square profile.
I picked up many that looked useful and also got some more in their $10 "grab boxes" of assorted stuff.
I likely have enough for my lifetime.....but don't tell my wife!
Let me know if you'd like a couple and I can send some along.
(Send your snail-mail address by PM if interested. No charge!)
That was the only store I went to weekly.....and now I am missing it bad!
It is a small business, so I hope they survive...
No. I hope they thrive, and I promise to do my part by spending money as soon as they open again!
Actually, that store had an old shaper a little over a year ago that needed a bunch of cleanup.
I might have taken it, if I did not already have too much on the go.
I could see doing that in retirement...cleaning up machines for re-sale if the price was right.
I'm not greedy, if I got my cost + a case of beer out of each, I'd be happy!
-brino
Wow, I cant imagine all those tools in a 20x20 space, Do you walk on the machines to get around
.At least you can repair, build about anything with all those machines..and it takes some smarts to be able to use them correctly, as I know you do...
We use to have several surplus store here also, use to go in there with $10 and come out with a bag full of goodie, some neat wrenches, bags of various tool bits, ect, now they are just like any other store, no more neat stuff, no more surplus,, Times Change I Guess.
Some time I'll send some pics of my shop, the only thing that I paid to have done was the cement slab, everything else was done by myself, took 2.5 years ( 1 year laid up because of a 20ft fall on my head on that hard concrete,) but it got done, now I look back and wonder how in the heck did i do all that by my self, this was in 2004, I was around 52 years old.
Its 60x32, with a loft/apartment, wife has house in town but we live here 90% of the time.
Anyway, bed time, and I'll talk to you later on the other channel and thanks alot for the offer,
Thanks,Tim
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As stated earlier, the shaper uses cheap easily sharpened lathe tools, so from that standpoint, it is great for hobbyists and repair shops in developing countries. Some things it won't do that a milling machine will: drill, ream or bore holes, cut pockets or complex islands. What it will do that a milling machine wont: internal keyways and splines, including blind splines and keyways (have to have a relief cut at the end for chips). As for metal removal rate, it depends on the shaper and the mill. I would put my 24" Cincinnati shaper up against nearly any hobbyist milling machine in terms of metal removal. On the other hand, it doesn't come anywhere close to a monster VMC with a 50 hp spindle motor. Also, the larger ones are relatively cheap to buy, if you have the means to move and install them. Certainly not the first machine you want in a home shop, but for the home shop machinist who has everything else (including space), it's a must have.
Thanks Alot, Id like to use it more but have some problems with the gingery lathe now, i wasn't here, farmer neighbor was bringing in piece of eqt. in shop and hit lathe pretty hard and bust some casting and things on it. Really pretty sick, sad and mad, so need to take some time to get over this today and figure what to start fixing first, and all the alignments and stuff that comes afterwards....
I did make some extra casting when building it so will see what I can use..
tim
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Ok only laughing at the second bit. The first bit totally sucks!Oh no!
Sorry to hear that Tim.
I bet it won't be his equipment!
-brino
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The thing about watching shapers is.. they are so darn forceful uncompromising!
Graceful, but unstoppable.
Graceful, but unstoppable.
Hi Guys, I think the last thing I remember is I got a phone call from the Jack A.. that farms my land and he said he was bring that 40' boom off one side of his sprayer to my shop, I said I would be there in 20 min..
Got to the shop and seen a lot of tractor tracks, but no sprayer boom, thought maybe he took it back home, wasn't sure..certainly he wouldn't put it in the shop by him self, Its tricky to do because of the shape and size of it, Its hard to keep it from tipping with out bracing from the floor.
To my heart attack surprise it was in my shop on the floor, and on my gingery lathe, and pedestal grinder, and old tool box, and bag of floor dry,
and my stinky old beer cans that were in the garbage cans that were strewn all over the floor...
Well, cross slid was broken off lathe, the part the handle fits in and sticks out, multiple handles, lead screw was bent, tail stock has a big gouge in it,
Chuck has big scratch in it, had to hit hard to do all this damage.
So I cast new parts and repair most everything, just doesn't feel like the same machine now, still need to do some scraping to get it right.
Used it this morning and sounds like there is a Thump in the front head bearing,
Oh' his spray boom, it is laying out in the mud and snow, under about a foot water, been getting a call 3-4 times a day but Tims not home and he doesn't fix spray booms any more,,, since I was told that I'm retired and have a lot of time to repair my junk.
Thanks,
Tim
Got to the shop and seen a lot of tractor tracks, but no sprayer boom, thought maybe he took it back home, wasn't sure..certainly he wouldn't put it in the shop by him self, Its tricky to do because of the shape and size of it, Its hard to keep it from tipping with out bracing from the floor.
To my heart attack surprise it was in my shop on the floor, and on my gingery lathe, and pedestal grinder, and old tool box, and bag of floor dry,
and my stinky old beer cans that were in the garbage cans that were strewn all over the floor...
Well, cross slid was broken off lathe, the part the handle fits in and sticks out, multiple handles, lead screw was bent, tail stock has a big gouge in it,
Chuck has big scratch in it, had to hit hard to do all this damage.
So I cast new parts and repair most everything, just doesn't feel like the same machine now, still need to do some scraping to get it right.
Used it this morning and sounds like there is a Thump in the front head bearing,
Oh' his spray boom, it is laying out in the mud and snow, under about a foot water, been getting a call 3-4 times a day but Tims not home and he doesn't fix spray booms any more,,, since I was told that I'm retired and have a lot of time to repair my junk.
Thanks,
Tim
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Some nerve!
He drags his agricultural type kit into the very spot you like enough take your beer to, trashes your machine to the extent that it "just doesn't feel the same anymore", and he STILL wants your attentions to fix his kit.
I take that by now, you have given him your considered professional estimate on just how much of the 40' can be shoved up you-know-where!
He drags his agricultural type kit into the very spot you like enough take your beer to, trashes your machine to the extent that it "just doesn't feel the same anymore", and he STILL wants your attentions to fix his kit.
I take that by now, you have given him your considered professional estimate on just how much of the 40' can be shoved up you-know-where!