Aloris vs Dorian QCTP?

Thanks Jeff, my issue is I'm picky as hell about my tools. I'll buy a used machine but tools and underwear are two things I buy new.

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PS: Jeff just gave me an idea...I don't like fishing my parts out from the chip tray half beat up after parting off...tail stock mounted parts catcher :think1:
 
coolidge said:
Have you ever ordered from http://www.usshoptools.com/
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Never purchased from them before. I saw them at Westec a few tears ago & picked up a catalog. Can't remember why but there was a reason why I choose not buy from them & eventually threw their catalog out.


coolidge said:
I'm picky as hell about my tools. I'll buy a used machine but tools and underwear are two things I buy new.
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I can relate, although my machines are China I learned my lesson & try to stay far away from China tools as possible, I do have exceptions though. I have no problem buying used but for me they have to be in great condition. If they have personal engravings on them I almost always turn away.



coolidge said:
Jeff just gave me an idea...I don't like fishing my parts out from the chip tray half beat up after parting off...tail stock mounted parts catcher :think1:
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I never let parts just fall when parting off. I always catch them. I haven't got around to making some type of parts catcher but for anything I part off that has a through hole, that's easy....


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Yeah that's a neat trick for catching parts, so long as it doesn't get kicked up in the chuck and batted into my forehead. That parting pic reminds me, I forgot to add parting tool inserts to my order today ack! US Shop Tools so far is okay, this is my 2nd order from them. I can find the inserts for the same price elsewhere but I pay no sales tax through them. Many of the other suppliers like Grainger, MSC, even Enco on some things are way over priced. Drillspot is another one. $20 to $30 for an insert that other places are selling for $13.

Carmex threading tool holders and inserts are inbound! ETA probably Friday. I went with a SIR0500M16B internal threading bar, a SER0625H16 external tool holder, and one insert each internal and external in a couple different grades, one for aluminum/brass another for steel.

I fixed the 3 jaw chuck and tried out these sharp CCGT polished inserts on a piece of oak this evening, really good results. This was at 270 rpms, .004 feed. I tried 360 and it was about the same, 800 was noticeably rougher perhaps slowing down the feed would have been better. These inserts are awesome on end grain and I had used that corner on some aluminum before this test so its settled the metal lathe can turn wood.

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coolidge said:
Thanks Jeff, my issue is I'm picky as hell about my tools. I'll buy a used machine but tools and underwear are two things I buy new.

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PS: Jeff just gave me an idea...I don't like fishing my parts out from the chip tray half beat up after parting off...tail stock mounted parts catcher :think1:
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My criteria for tooling is good condition so it works as new. I purchased a 1" shank Valentine carbide insert grooving tool off ebay for $15 shipped. In my opinion, a $160 tool for $10 plus shipping leaves more funds for more tooling. My 1" shank CNMG insert tool was under $20

Very good used spreads the funds
 
That's fair Jeff, I guess I'm not opposed to buying good quality used tool holders so long as they are not beat up rusted and overpriced...which pretty much describes everything on my local craigslist. I have not purchased much on ebay in recent years, I got tired of dealing with flaky sellers who take 3 weeks to ship items out then freak out when you ask them where your item is or ignore you altogether.
 
coolidge said:
US Shop Tools so far is okay, this is my 2nd order from them. I can find the inserts for the same price elsewhere but I pay no sales tax through them. Many of the other suppliers like Grainger, MSC, even Enco on some things are way over priced. Drillspot is another one. $20 to $30 for an insert that other places are selling for $13.
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I guess I'm too cheap & spoiled these days. I very rarely would pay full retail on inserts, on only a few of my tool holders I have to but those are not used on a regular basis so that's ok. I get all my inserts from ebay. Despite all the horror stories I hear, I would say I've had 99% good transactions on ebay in the past 10+ years. Not only is it up to the seller but IMO the buyer should lso know what they are buying.

For the inserts I use the most, I never pay more than $5 per insert. Like the Ingersol CCGT 31.51 inserts I have, I got 50 inserts for $153, that's $3.06 per insert so I'm set for a while. I got 50 Ingersol SCGT 31.52 inserts for $130, $2.60 per insert. 40 Valenite CCGT 21.51 inserts for $50, $1.25 per insert. Not too long ago I got 30 Sandvik DCGT 31.51 inserts for $60, $2 per insert. And just last week I got 20 Sandvik DCGT 31.50 inserts for $36.66, $1.83 per insert. All new in unopened packaging & pretty much all of these inserts go for more than $10 per insert. It seems the price of carbides have gone up on ebay but the deals can still be found.

I can go on with my CNMG, CNGG, & parting inserts as well as the tools like solid carbide boring bars but you get the idea. As a hobbyist, these huge savings are awesome.
 
I have been cruising ebay for a few days now DZ no luck on anything yet, slim pickings for Dorian BXA told holders. I did get my threading order in from US Shop Tools...one insert was supposed to be a Carmex K20 uncoated insert for aluminum/brass but they shipped me a coated insert. My replacement 4 jaw chuck came in, it has a big ass gouge in one of the jaw screws that hangs up. I fixed my 3 jaw chuck one of the cam bolts had a mushed thread and the factory just cranked it in there with a wrench. So dealing with some quality issues this week. :angryfire: On the bright side this week has been GRRRRRAAHHHHH crash free!
 
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