Hey all, I have seen this question many times on the net, and also on this forum. I have reviewed several from here, including these:
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But I can't seem to apply the information given to my situation. I apologize in advance for asking the same question that I am sure is brought up again and again.
I am refurbishing a 1935 South Bend lathe, though I'm pretty sure the motor is newer than that. Here is it's info tag below. I think it is capacitor start as I see a bump on it's side. The original wall plug is a 220 V plug and wiring seem to have been for high volts.
Left side of tag (right side is cut off, see other image below)
![IMG_3676.png IMG_3676.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354562-1f890242d8c132f4e7f5bac7cfd10b99.jpg)
Right side of tag:
![IMG_3654.png IMG_3654.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354563-e284073456bb0af18f132594b4af0724.jpg)
I have a Westinghouse Drum switch that looks like this (not cleaned up yet).
![IMG_3669.png IMG_3669.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354564-7361115a9c585cfb50485b8ae2f7a8bc.jpg)
I verified that it has It has connections like this:
![IMG_3669_switch right.png IMG_3669_switch right.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354566-23c778e69fd4b8bb8d92d4d589b56872.jpg)
![IMG_3669_switch left.png IMG_3669_switch left.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354567-7569e9230d1aa48ce17cd22d5e3eb8d2.jpg)
And with switch in the center, there is no connection. This seems standard to other posts I have seen about this.
When I took the wiring apart during painting etc, I tried to label the wires. But 2 or more of my tags came off unnoticed by me until too late. So I'm stuck.
The wires coming out of the motor were nicely labeled with P1, P2, T2, T3, T4, T5, T8
![Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 6.55.49 PM.png Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 6.55.49 PM.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354569-f14d894426a5fcfba8615c0a1cdc6c53.jpg)
Below is the other end of wires that were connected to the motor:
![IMG_874FAE1C10CC-1.jpeg IMG_874FAE1C10CC-1.jpeg](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354568-d9cdd4b70cbba0f3c7d57c078e2fb5bc.jpg)
It has red, black, yellow and orange #1 and orange #2
The wires coming out of the motor. connections were as follows (see also diagram below):
P1 --> orange #1
P2 --> capped, not used
T2+T3 --> orange #2
T4 --> yellow
T5 --> red
T8 --> black
These wire run to a junction box in the back of the lathe. And here they connect to a different set of wires that run to the drum switch. In the photo below, only these second set of wires are shown:
![IMG_3667.png IMG_3667.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354570-53a93e57e9ec59e4cbdc71c17a8d7468.jpg)
The connections here are as below (see also diagram below)
yellow --> switch pole 3
orange #1 --> switch pole 6
orange #2 --> ?? (tag lost)
red --> switch pole 4
black --> ?? (tag lost)
The secondary wires reach the end of the arm, where the switch is mounted:
![IMG_3668.png IMG_3668.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354571-646750ea83494e437e269363820deb4b.jpg)
There are 6 wires running from the junction box to the end of the switch arm. One of them seemed to be capped off and not used, though I'm not sure.
Here is the best I can diagram my current knowledge of the original setup.
![Lathe Wiring Diagram.png Lathe Wiring Diagram.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354579-57fee63b5e50fb5c22ab27abb13b5706.jpg)
To summarize:
I want Drum switch to switch this 220 V, single phase motor in forward, reverse directions, and of course also off.
Any help will be appreciated!
K. Toppenberg
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But I can't seem to apply the information given to my situation. I apologize in advance for asking the same question that I am sure is brought up again and again.
I am refurbishing a 1935 South Bend lathe, though I'm pretty sure the motor is newer than that. Here is it's info tag below. I think it is capacitor start as I see a bump on it's side. The original wall plug is a 220 V plug and wiring seem to have been for high volts.
Left side of tag (right side is cut off, see other image below)
![IMG_3676.png IMG_3676.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354562-1f890242d8c132f4e7f5bac7cfd10b99.jpg)
Right side of tag:
![IMG_3654.png IMG_3654.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354563-e284073456bb0af18f132594b4af0724.jpg)
I have a Westinghouse Drum switch that looks like this (not cleaned up yet).
![IMG_3669.png IMG_3669.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354564-7361115a9c585cfb50485b8ae2f7a8bc.jpg)
I verified that it has It has connections like this:
![IMG_3669_switch right.png IMG_3669_switch right.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354566-23c778e69fd4b8bb8d92d4d589b56872.jpg)
![IMG_3669_switch left.png IMG_3669_switch left.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354567-7569e9230d1aa48ce17cd22d5e3eb8d2.jpg)
And with switch in the center, there is no connection. This seems standard to other posts I have seen about this.
When I took the wiring apart during painting etc, I tried to label the wires. But 2 or more of my tags came off unnoticed by me until too late. So I'm stuck.
The wires coming out of the motor were nicely labeled with P1, P2, T2, T3, T4, T5, T8
![Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 6.55.49 PM.png Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 6.55.49 PM.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354569-f14d894426a5fcfba8615c0a1cdc6c53.jpg)
Below is the other end of wires that were connected to the motor:
![IMG_874FAE1C10CC-1.jpeg IMG_874FAE1C10CC-1.jpeg](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354568-d9cdd4b70cbba0f3c7d57c078e2fb5bc.jpg)
It has red, black, yellow and orange #1 and orange #2
The wires coming out of the motor. connections were as follows (see also diagram below):
P1 --> orange #1
P2 --> capped, not used
T2+T3 --> orange #2
T4 --> yellow
T5 --> red
T8 --> black
These wire run to a junction box in the back of the lathe. And here they connect to a different set of wires that run to the drum switch. In the photo below, only these second set of wires are shown:
![IMG_3667.png IMG_3667.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354570-53a93e57e9ec59e4cbdc71c17a8d7468.jpg)
The connections here are as below (see also diagram below)
yellow --> switch pole 3
orange #1 --> switch pole 6
orange #2 --> ?? (tag lost)
red --> switch pole 4
black --> ?? (tag lost)
The secondary wires reach the end of the arm, where the switch is mounted:
![IMG_3668.png IMG_3668.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354571-646750ea83494e437e269363820deb4b.jpg)
There are 6 wires running from the junction box to the end of the switch arm. One of them seemed to be capped off and not used, though I'm not sure.
Here is the best I can diagram my current knowledge of the original setup.
![Lathe Wiring Diagram.png Lathe Wiring Diagram.png](https://www.hobby-machinist.com/data/attachments/354/354579-57fee63b5e50fb5c22ab27abb13b5706.jpg)
To summarize:
I want Drum switch to switch this 220 V, single phase motor in forward, reverse directions, and of course also off.
Any help will be appreciated!
K. Toppenberg
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