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The time has finally arrived so I'm packing up the shop, and the house, and moving to Sparks, Nevada. It's amazing how much "stuff" you can accumulate when you have a place to put it. I have several pieces of machinery that I didn't have when I moved in 5 years ago as well as tooling that goes with these machines. The movers are showing up in three weeks so I've got to get going with packing.

Looks like I'll be out of the machining business for a few months so the wife and I can get the house together. Lot's to do there with hanging stuff on the walls and arranging furniture to her liking. My new shop space will be smaller so machinery placement will be important to maximize usable space. Still, it should be ample room. On a positive note the down time will give me time to think up new projects.

Wish me luck. I'll need it.
 

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Best of luck Tom!

It will also give you a chance to handle and sort everything. You might just find some tools that you misplaced years ago!

-brino
 

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Jeez, Tom, I cannot even contemplate trying to move my shop so I feel for you. Best of luck in Nevada!
 

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Best of luck Tom!

It will also give you a chance to handle and sort everything. You might just find some tools that you misplaced years ago!

-brino
This came at a good time. We are retiring in June and moving to No. Cal as soon as we can find a suitable property (acreage and large shop). I'm dreading having to pack up my garage after being here 20 years. I have all of the tools and equipment to make anything in wood (including a 6ft cast iron wood lathe) welding/fab work and of course machining (mill/lathe), standing band saw & drill press and hand/power tools/airbrushing.

I was looking around the garage on Saturday and estimated I need about 30 apple boxes just for the smalls. The power equipment needs a truck/trailer. I'm planning on hiring a mover because it's just too much for me to handle @ 65YO with a bad back. I'm thinking about making crates for my mini mill and metal lathe. My iron wood lathe I don't know. I'd hate to break one of the legs off it. Last time I moved it 20 years ago, we only moved about a mile away. The movers got it in a large box truck with a lift gate and just tied it all down really well. Then they packed the rest of the house around it so nothing cold move. They got it all there in one load w/o breaking anything!

I hired Cailfornia Machinery Movers to get my lathe in the garage and on the workbench. They brought over a mini forklift that fit under the roll-up garage door by an inch.

If anyone has a suggestion for a good, long distance house moving company, I'd appreciate the referral.

Tom - you may want to give them a call if you need professional mover for you equipment. I'm sure they would cover western Nevada.

Brino_- I'm absolutely sure I'll find some lost treasures. I saw a few things the other day I forgot I have. I still have some tools & equipment I've had for 50 years now.

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Tom- I just noticed that you live in Redding, and are moving to Sparks. Any particular reason (if you don't mind). We're planning on moving to Corning, south of Red Bluff because we have family there.
 

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Omg Tom , I wouldn't want to even think about packing my mess !
 

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Best of luck to you guys.
All I can say is better you than me.
On the plus side, you will find things you forgot you had.
On the minus side, you will ask yourself why did I save that.
And just remember whatever you get rid of you will need it when you get to your new home.
Personally, I would rather take a butt whipping than move. I've been here for 35 years.
When I die I want to be buried in the backyard. Dig a large hole dump in my ashes and push all my junk on top.
Who say's you cant take it with you.
**G**
 

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Looks like I'll be out of the machining business for a few months so the wife and I can get the house together. Lot's to do there with hanging stuff on the walls and arranging furniture to her liking.
Nuts! You aren't going to pay full retail on a nail when you could easily turn one out of scrap for nothing if your lathe was running... are you? ;)

What ever the movers "estimate" they are going to charge you... double it! There is a standard rate that comes down to basically Weight x Miles. So all movers pretty much charge the same. The standard scam is to estimate the weight way low.. then they take the truck to the scale after it is loaded and the weight is double the estimate so your cost is double the estimate. At Least this is the way it was when I last moved. I had done some reading on the moving business so I was prepared for the scam when I last moved.

Good luck! Patients... patients... patients!
 

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When I die I want to be buried in the backyard. Dig a large hole dump in my ashes and push all my junk on top.
Who say's you cant take it with you.
**G**
I don't have a choice in the matter... my daughter has already told me that this is exactly what she is going to do when I die... with the exception she is going to leave my butt sticking up about a foot out of the ground so she has a place to park her bike!
 
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good luck Tom, moving is no fun but it'll be worth it once you settle in. I've moved my shop twice in 3 years, good way to cut down on the crap, that's for sure. I'm happy not to be moving again, fingers crossed, for many years!
 

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Redding Gets hot in the summer, but I guess sparks dose also,
When I moved weight did not matter that and lower price is why I used allied, but I was staying in this state .
They also let me screw 2x4s into the floor of the lift gate trailer to keep things from shifting.
Movings no fun. Let me know if I can help I’m down the road a bit.
 

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Thanks everyone for your advice and support. This is my second move in 5 years. This move is more of a PITA because I'm moving out of state. Vehicle registration is more difficult and auto and home insurance requires a stack of documentation. And I don't want to get into trying to sell a house in California and building another 200 miles away. My wife is in tears almost everyday dealing with everyone that wants your time, money and first born. When it's over it will be worth it but at the moment we're not having fun.

Thursday we have a follow up meeting with the moving company. At the first meeting the comment from the estimator was, "Wow! You got a lot of stuff". Not very comforting. This time the owner is coming out. I'll fill you in on our progress and let you know how the move goes.
 

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Tom- I just noticed that you live in Redding, and are moving to Sparks. Any particular reason (if you don't mind). We're planning on moving to Corning, south of Red Bluff because we have family there.
You want to buy a house? 2600 Sq. Ft, 2000 Sq Ft shop, on 3 acres. I'm kidding but it is a nice area.

Corning is about 45 minutes south of us. Nice area too. We've been to Rolling Hills Casino many times.

Our original intent was to move to the Reno area five years ago but instead we decided to move to Redding to watch our two oldest granddaughters play their junior high and high school sports. The oldest of the two is now away at college and the youngest is a senior in HS. The time we spent with them is irreplaceable. Mission accomplished! Now it's our time to go where we've wanted to go for quite some time.
 

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Redding Gets hot in the summer, but I guess sparks dose also,
When I moved weight did not matter that and lower price is why I used allied, but I was staying in this state .
They also let me screw 2x4s into the floor of the lift gate trailer to keep things from shifting.
Movings no fun. Let me know if I can help I’m down the road a bit.
Yeah, Redding does get hot in the summer. Last year we had 73 straight days of 100 degrees plus. At times we were hotter that Phoenix. Go figure. A hot day in Sparks is high 90's and it cools off at night.

Thanks for your offer to help. I'll know after Thursdays meeting with the mover what I need to move.
 

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This came at a good time. We are retiring in June and moving to No. Cal as soon as we can find a suitable property (acreage and large shop). I'm dreading having to pack up my garage after being here 20 years. I have all of the tools and equipment to make anything in wood (including a 6ft cast iron wood lathe) welding/fab work and of course machining (mill/lathe), standing band saw & drill press and hand/power tools/airbrushing.

I was looking around the garage on Saturday and estimated I need about 30 apple boxes just for the smalls. The power equipment needs a truck/trailer. I'm planning on hiring a mover because it's just too much for me to handle @ 65YO with a bad back. I'm thinking about making crates for my mini mill and metal lathe. My iron wood lathe I don't know. I'd hate to break one of the legs off it. Last time I moved it 20 years ago, we only moved about a mile away. The movers got it in a large box truck with a lift gate and just tied it all down really well. Then they packed the rest of the house around it so nothing cold move. They got it all there in one load w/o breaking anything!

I hired Cailfornia Machinery Movers to get my lathe in the garage and on the workbench. They brought over a mini forklift that fit under the roll-up garage door by an inch.

If anyone has a suggestion for a good, long distance house moving company, I'd appreciate the referral.

Tom - you may want to give them a call if you need professional mover for you equipment. I'm sure they would cover western Nevada.

Brino_- I'm absolutely sure I'll find some lost treasures. I saw a few things the other day I forgot I have. I still have some tools & equipment I've had for 50 years now.

Rick
When I moved 5 years ago the moving company brought machinery dollies to move my mill drill and 12x36 lathe. These are in essence small fork lifts. They use wood blocking to protect the machinery and strap a machinery dolly to it on each end. The hydraulics are pumped up and the equipment is lifted a few inches off the floor. A couple of people can then easily wheel it into the moving van. Same dollies will be used for this move.
 

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Nuts! You aren't going to pay full retail on a nail when you could easily turn one out of scrap for nothing if your lathe was running... are you? ;)

What ever the movers "estimate" they are going to charge you... double it! There is a standard rate that comes down to basically Weight x Miles. So all movers pretty much charge the same. The standard scam is to estimate the weight way low.. then they take the truck to the scale after it is loaded and the weight is double the estimate so your cost is double the estimate. At Least this is the way it was when I last moved. I had done some reading on the moving business so I was prepared for the scam when I last moved.

Good luck! Patients... patients... patients!
We got burned with the weight estimate last time we moved. They said they estimated the weight but the machinery was much heavier than they thought. We ended up having to pay another $1500 or so on top of the move before they would unload the stuff. Get a firm commitment on the cost and mention it is machinery and not furniture, heavier than they might think for the space it takes up in the trailer.
 

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we've used one mover who charged by weight and one by space. First one cost ~$6500 to move from PA to WA, second one cost ~$3000 to move from WA to TX with alot more stuff. The second one was neat - they dropped off the trailer and you had 3 days to fill it, then they boarded up your stuff, took a note of the linear feet used and then filled the rest with whatever needed going in that direction. With some creative packing (it was like a 3D tetris puzzle) I managed to get all of our stuff, including all my tools into 3ft less linear feet than quoted, so we saved a few 100 bucks. Took a day or two longer than we took to drive down with our cats.

Tom, I hear you on the stress. It sucks big time and the lead up to the move is the worst. Once you're in the process it will feel better and once you arrive it'll feel great. I'm sure you know this already, but it never hurts to hear it again :)
 

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Good luck with the move! Moving and the planning that goes into it is an adventure that can be fun and challenging both. I keep thinking if/when I retire and move to another state I'd likely get a flat-bed trailer and move the Mill/Lathe and the car lift on it myself. The rest of the stuff (tool chests etc) will just go in the Penske/Uhaul along with the other household stuff. Granted my machinery is probably not nearly as heavy as your's.
 

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Thanks guys.
 

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Good luck Tom and congrats on the new house. I'm a couple of years away from pulling the plug on the bay area but probably going north.

Safe journey and may all your stuff arrive in one piece. :grin:
 

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Good luck Tom and congrats on the new house. I'm a couple of years away from pulling the plug on the bay area but probably going north.

Safe journey and may all your stuff arrive in one piece. :grin:
Thanks Jay. It's funny that just last month I was looking for projects. Now that my machines are out of service I've got four waiting and a couple more in the works.
 

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Did you have any thoughts of selling some of the big things and buying new machines when you got there?
 

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Did you have any thoughts of selling some of the big things and buying new machines when you got there?
Yes I did. Then reality set in. Spent too much on the house so no money left for machinery.
 

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Look ad pods or shipping container.

They drop off a container ON THE GROUND then you get your machines in first and place well then pack everything arround them as ballast.

The containers have unloaded weight on them but they can cheat you as it is on a truck and who knows how weighed.

So first insist that the weight of container is posted on container.

Also know where the nearest scale is and there are CAT scales all over as well as other ones.

Ask to meet the truck with container at the scale and pay for a weight measurement.

After they drop it off follow back to weigh again.

Repeat after loading.

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Yes I did. Then reality set in. Spent too much on the house so no money left for machinery.
Yea, and the thought it takes years to get what you have and could risk not finding similar machines to replace.
 

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Look ad pods or shipping container.

They drop off a container ON THE GROUND then you get your machines in first and place well then pack everything arround them as ballast.

The containers have unloaded weight on them but they can cheat you as it is on a truck and who knows how weighed.

So first insist that the weight of container is posted on container.

Also know where the nearest scale is and there are CAT scales all over as well as other ones.

Ask to meet the truck with container at the scale and pay for a weight measurement.

After they drop it off follow back to weigh again.

Repeat after loading.

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Thanks for the tip but I have no desire or energy to load and unload our belongings. I'm too old for that.
 

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Look ad pods or shipping container.

They drop off a container ON THE GROUND then you get your machines in first and place well then pack everything arround them as ballast.

The containers have unloaded weight on them but they can cheat you as it is on a truck and who knows how weighed.

So first insist that the weight of container is posted on container.

Also know where the nearest scale is and there are CAT scales all over as well as other ones.

Ask to meet the truck with container at the scale and pay for a weight measurement.

After they drop it off follow back to weigh again.

Repeat after loading.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk
Thanks for the tip but I have no desire or energy to load and unload our belongings. I'm too old for that.
If you have "heavy steel" you may be better off with the container then hire a rigger to load and secure the machines.

Here local we have an interesting company called meat head movers that are college students so there could be something local that could do same.

Moving companies move furniture and general property but terrible at shop stuff.

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You're giving me nightmares TomS.

I went through a unplanned, forced move about a year and a half ago. I was minus my shop for about 6 months.

I hope your move goes better! :)
 
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