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Would love to hear from other Schaublin owners.


The lathe is a 102VM, which is the screw cutting version of the 102. It's equipped with the overhead drive system for grinding/milling, coolant system in the right side of the stand, and a tripan quick change tool post. The lathe left the factory in June of 1949 and was completely rebuilt by the Schaublin factory in 1983.

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The milling machine is a series 13 universal milling machine. It is a true universal mill with a tilting/rotating table, vertical head, horizonal setup,
high speed drilling head with quill, a slotting head, and change geared drive from the table to a dividing head for spiral milling. The mill left the factory in 1974.

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Again, would love to hear from other Schaublin owners. I'm a member of the Yahoo Schaublin group, but find it extremely hard to navigate/post on that site.
One item I'm looking for is a tail stock for my dividing head. I know the odds are slim to none, but I found the change gears for the spiral milling after searchingfor 20 years, so you never know.

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Those are real beauties, especially the 102VM. Does it have a lead screw? Can't quite make one out. If not, how does the screw cutting work? Did you buy the Tripan tool post or did it come with the lathe?

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Those are real beauties, especially the 102VM. Does it have a lead screw? Can't quite make one out. If not, how does the screw cutting work? Did you buy the Tripan tool post or did it come with the lathe?

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Hi Dave,
Thank you for the compliment. The lathe does have a leadscrew. It's located underneath the bed, directly below the spindle centerline. It's used for both screw cutting and normal carriage feed. It can be driven by the change gears or a 4 step belt and pulley system located on the back side. The lever just to the right of the change gear housing selects between the two. Luckily the lathe came with an extensive set of tooling including the tool post and six tool holders. The milling machine also came with a lot of tooling. Given what people want for Schaublin tooling, I consider myself lucky I didn't have to tool the machines from scratch.


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very very nice machines!!!--I'm hoping some more pictures show up--I'm impressed---Dave
 

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Hi karmakanic,

Your Lathe looks and mill look great , after a Schaublin refurb the 102vm must run like a dream. Your ready to create your masterpiece.
I have a 102vm from 1957 which is lightly worn but holds fantastic tolerances, have a full set of collets and a couple of nice chucks and and a full set of change wheels . I love this lathe especially how quiet it is , worked my way up to this from a Chinese minilathe to a Myford and then this see pic. My lathe has the D1-2 cam spindle for the chucks and runs off an inverter. I also have an Aciera F3 in excellent order with a vertical and horizontal head and a dividing head, so I can share the collets and the dividing head. I dont think there are too many of these in Ireland so I feel quite lucky to have them. I got a w20 to mt2 adapter from RC machines website and I can use my er 25 collet set on both machines.
I also have a Cowells 90 and a cncBF20 mill(4 axis) and a cnc Compact8 lathe, I converted both myself and I hope to make more bits for the lathe and mill as I need them.
I don,t get to use any of it much as I am studying but hope to soon. So far I have made a few little things like a steady and live centre , eventually want to make a state of the art tone arm for my record player .I am also a member of the Schaublin and Aciera forums and have received a lot of good advice from both forums. When I saw your post I went out to the shed and took a picture of each.
Good luck with your lathe.
Mark

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Hello

I have a spare tailstock for a 13 but its for the round older style 13, but i think they are identical. Maybe you have something to trade?
 

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The tailstock needs restoring. I also have some of the super rare P20 collets for use directly in the drawbar end of your vertical head (the head is turned 180 degrees and you will se its tapered)
They have som surface rust on the stem of the collets. They are imperial.

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Hi karmakanic,

Your Lathe looks and mill look great , after a Schaublin refurb the 102vm must run like a dream. Your ready to create your masterpiece.
I have a 102vm from 1957 which is lightly worn but holds fantastic tolerances, have a full set of collets and a couple of nice chucks and and a full set of change wheels . I love this lathe especially how quiet it is , worked my way up to this from a Chinese minilathe to a Myford and then this see pic. My lathe has the D1-2 cam spindle for the chucks and runs off an inverter. I also have an Aciera F3 in excellent order with a vertical and horizontal head and a dividing head, so I can share the collets and the dividing head. I dont think there are too many of these in Ireland so I feel quite lucky to have them. I got a w20 to mt2 adapter from RC machines website and I can use my er 25 collet set on both machines.
I also have a Cowells 90 and a cncBF20 mill(4 axis) and a cnc Compact8 lathe, I converted both myself and I hope to make more bits for the lathe and mill as I need them.
I don,t get to use any of it much as I am studying but hope to soon. So far I have made a few little things like a steady and live centre , eventually want to make a state of the art tone arm for my record player .I am also a member of the Schaublin and Aciera forums and have received a lot of good advice from both forums. When I saw your post I went out to the shed and took a picture of each.
Good luck with your lathe.
Mark
Thanksa for posting the pics Mark.Those are a couple of beautiful machines. I bet that F3 is a real pleasure to use. You're right about the lathe being quiet, my phase convertor is louder than the lathe.
 

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The tailstock needs restoring. I also have some of the super rare P20 collets for use directly in the drawbar end of your vertical head (the head is turned 180 degrees and you will se its tapered)
They have som surface rust on the stem of the collets. They are imperial.
Hi slektning, thanks for posting.
Could you measure the height to the dead centerpoint on your tailstock? It must be an older version, I've never seen one like it, but if the height matches my diving head I should be able to make it work.


I have something you may help me identify. P4050005.JPG P4050006.JPG This came with my mill, but I think it's for a
smaller mill that mine. The bed profile matches the 102 lathe and it's about 550mm long. The tail stock is smaller than the lathe tailstock. Underneath there is a center pilot and two slots for T bolts. I think it was designed to sit on the mill table saddle and replace the table itself. None of the dimensions match my series13 mill, too small.

as far the collets, could you post a pic of how and where they're used. My vertical head has a standard iso 30 taper, and I can't picture how collets could be used on the drawbar end of the head.

thanks,
Dave

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The bed section is for use with a special 90mm centre height dividing head. The tailstock i have uses morse nr 0 so the tip is easily replaced. If you look into the drawbar end of your millhead you will se the stud that prevents the collet from rotating.

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The bed section is for use with a special 90mm centre height dividing head. The tailstock i have uses morse nr 0 so the tip is easily replaced. If you look into the drawbar end of your millhead you will se the stud that prevents the collet from rotating.
Thanks so much for the photos and the description. I guess they discontinued use of the collets on the drawbar side of the millhead as my series 13 from the 70's does not have a taper or the stud.

Your tailstock will work with my dividing head, but I don't know if it's feasable to have it shipped from Norway to Texas. Do you have an idea of what you would want for it?

thanks,
Dave
 

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I have seen one of the newer heads with a drawbar end taper but i guess they discontinued it at some point.

It can be shipped but im not sure about the cost. Guesstimate 50-100$

Would 150$ be ok?
 

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That's a fair price, but after draging out the bed and tailstock thats been behind the work bench for 10 years, it has occured to me I can make an adaptor plate and use the 90 mm tailstock. I even found some 2 degree centers of various shapes that fit it's quill.
Thanks for all you help and information slektning.
 

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Hello there,

Here is a picture of my Schaublin 13 Milling Machine :))

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And my Schaublin Rotary Table

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Best regards,
FB29

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Here is my Schaublin 120VM which I brought recently. It is awaiting restoration as I also have a CVA 10x30 and DSG 13x42 which have needed a bit of work. The Schaublin came with a 3 and 4 jaw chucks as well as both steadies and an extensive selection of change gears. Unfortunately no collets or collet closer. Looking forward to working on it in the future.




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Here is my Schaublin 120VM which I brought recently. It is awaiting restoration as I also have a CVA 10x30 and DSG 13x42 which have needed a bit of work. The Schaublin came with a 3 and 4 jaw chucks as well as both steadies and an extensive selection of change gears. Unfortunately no collets or collet closer. Looking forward to working on it in the future.

Mark

Hi Mark,
Let's see pictures of the CVA and DS&G - perhaps they even deserve their own thread?
Regards, David
 

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Hi Mark,
Let's see pictures of the CVA and DS&G - perhaps they even deserve their own thread?
Regards, David


Seeing you asked have included some machines in the shed.


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116.JPG CVA 10 x 30
018.JPG Archdale radial arm drill

013.JPG SHW UF1 mill
010.JPG Hulse 9 ft planer
037.JPG Mitsui Seiki jig borer
003.JPG Simmons microspeed 24 x 72 lathe




Also have Kearns horizontal borer, SIP 2C jig borer, Churchill surface grinder and cylindrical grinder, 3 shapers 12",18" and 24", Arbroga radial arm drill, Herbert high speed drill and Herbert geared head drill plus a number of other machines. I live on a farm so have a fair bit of shed room but planning to build another and last shed this year. Every time I think I'll never buy and shift another big machine something comes along that I can't resist. Would definately make room for a Churchill slideway grinder and Hauser jig grinder. Hope you enjoy.


Mark

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