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5lb, 40 yo tank of FE1301 (Halon)? Estate Sale find.... PO built experimental aircraft.
A casual search of how to dispose of it doesn't reveal much.
(Stash it under the tractor shed?)

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Thanks, that would be cool. To find out something that you've been kicking around the shop for well over a year, trying to figure out what to do with it - might have some value.
 
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When I worked in that field{ Fire Suppression Systems}many years ago, Halon was used in areas where powder would be detrimental. Engine rooms of large yachts, museums, libraries, electric switching rooms and such. Since it's a gas there was no expensive cleanup.
Safe for humans but thought to be bad for the ozone layer.
Weigh the tank to check the contents.You got some gold there.
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5lb, 40 yo tank of FE1301 (Halon)? Estate Sale find.... PO built experimental aircraft.
A casual search of how to dispose of it doesn't reveal much.
(Stash it under the tractor shed?)

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Hi,
Halon gas has been banned for about 18-years at sea
It distroys the ozone,
Don't put it under your house, if it burns, it turns into phosgene gas ( known as mustard gas in the First World War)
It should be disposed of correctly,,,,,by licensed contractors
 

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I was joking around about stashing it under the tractor shed. :grin:
I remember the large systems in computer rooms way back when, but never paid any attention to them other then they were Halon and if the system activated, get your arse out of there Fast.
 

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I was joking around about stashing it under the tractor shed. :grin:
I remember the large systems in computer rooms way back when, but never paid any attention to them other then they were Halon and if the system activated, get your arse out of there Fast.

I have worked on Halon, CO2, Inergan, fog systems, total flooding, etc
My opinion is getting rid of a bottle of halon might prove to be expensive
I would put it into your neighbors shed when he is not around
 

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Hi,
Halon gas has been banned for about 18-years at sea
It distroys the ozone,
Don't put it under your house, if it burns, it turns into phosgene gas ( known as mustard gas in the First World War)
It should be disposed of correctly,,,,,by licensed contractors
Phosgene is COCl2. Halon 1301 is CF3Br (there are a bunch of different kinds of Halon--see wikipedia below). There is no chlorine in Halon 1301, thus it cannot turn into phosgene. Period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halon

Yes, CF3Br (Halon 1301) is bad for the ozone. It's why production was banned. It remains a valuable fire extinguisher material for some critical applications, thus can (and should) be reclaimed professionally. It is relatively safe (obviously it poses an asphyxiation hazard since it removes oxygen from a fire). It also has value. A reputable fire extinguisher company will give you good advice on the best way to sell it (assuming the extinguisher still has gas in it).
 
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Call the local fire dept. The will advise you on what to do.

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Freon is what turns into phosgene when it burns. Very nasty stuff.
 

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Phosgene is COCl2. Halon 1301 is CF3Br (there are a bunch of different kinds of Halon--see wikipedia below). There is no chlorine in Halon 1301, thus it cannot turn into phosgene. Period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halon

Yes, CF3Br (Halon 1301) is bad for the ozone. It's why production was banned. It remains a valuable fire extinguisher material for some critical applications, thus can (and should) be reclaimed professionally. It is relatively safe (obviously it poses an asphyxiation hazard since it removes oxygen from a fire). It also has value. A reputable fire extinguisher company will give you good advice on the best way to sell it (assuming the extinguisher still has gas in it).


Your right,,,,,, I checked the information
i was told that about 30-years ago, when Wikipedia didn't exist and checking information was not easy to find out
 

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Middle Road, let us know what you find out.

Thanks!
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Just weighed it. - 6.8lbs
Time to make some calls.

EDIT
Call #1 a large co here in Knoxville, "well we normally charged $5 but we'll waived that if you just want to drop it off with us...."
 
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Just weighed it. - 6.8lbs
Time to make some calls.

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Call #1 a large co here in Knoxville, "well we normally charged $5 but we'll waived that if you just want to drop it off with us...."
That's mighty big of them.:oops: Keep looking.

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I just called the local fire extinguisher place that I buy from and while they couldn't give me a value, he said that it's definitely got some value to reclaim.
 

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Just submitted online requests for quotes.
For grins & giggles I typed in and searched on "selling halon 1301" hehe, there's just a few...
Now we shall see... Proceeds can go towards the heat bill for the last couple of months or into the tool fund...

They'll probably want large tanks and such, not some piddlely arsed 5lb bottle.
 

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I have two halon extinguishers I got from a computer room we were dismantling. I had them checked a while back when I had my small engine shop, still keep them around but maybe I should see what I can get. If my shop goes up in flames I'd be fine with dry chem as the cleanup would be a PITA anyway....
 

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Many years ago a sales rep. demonstrated halon to me for our computer dept. He filled an ashtray with lighter fluid, and put a small amount of halon into a glass tumbler. He then lit the fluid on fire which produced quite a flame. Then he tipped the tumbler slowly towards the ashtray and the halon quickly shot into the flame extinguishing it almost instantly. Really impressive.
 

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Small size works for engine compartment.

Check on irv2 site as some over there build systems for engine and refer fire suppression.

Yes it has value as it can be used.

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