Time is running out (California folk)

woodchucker said:
so do nothing.
Unfortunately, your attitude makes up the majority.
I chose to do what I can, because I produce more waste (CO2, plastic, chemical, toxic) than I should. In order to survive it's just what I must do. It doesn't mean I can't be frugal about what I do.

I try to fix more than just buy the latest thing.
I re-use as much as possible before discarding.
I wish others would, but I can only control what I can control.
I don't try to keep up with the Jones' there's no point, and it's very wasteful.
I wear my pants and clothes until they are unable to do the job. Better clothes become work clothes until they can't do the job.

You do what you feel. But please, don't tell me it's not worth it. You keep in your lane, and I'll keep in mine.
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I’m not suggesting that you should do anything differently.
I even agree with you.
I mean you no disrespect or ill will

I have a different of opinion on electric batteries- we have an ecological disaster waiting to happen due to our own ignorance
 
Some volcanic explosions do have an effect on the climate. According to the USGS in 1982 Mt. Saint Hellens put out 10 million tons of CO2 in less than 9 hours. Here's an excerpt from their publication.

"There is no question that very large volcanic eruptions can inject significant amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens vented approximately 10 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere in only 9 hours. However, it currently takes humanity only 2.5 hours to put out the same amount. While large explosive eruptions like this are rare and only occur globally every 10 years or so, humanity's emissions are ceaseless and increasing every year."

There have already been 72 confirmed eruptions in 2023. That's a bit of a misnomer in that an "eruption" is defined as an incident that started during the calendar year. The eruption could last weeks or months but is still counted as a single incident. Also not counted as part of the current year eruptions are those that have carried over from the previous year.

As for "keeping up with the Jonses" that's never been something we've ever considered. We use everything until it can no longer perform its intended purpose. That goes for clothing, housing, tools, vehicles, and everything else. We recycle everything we can, but don't get caught up in the hysteria that we must give up everything we've worked for to "save the planet".

Those professing the demise of humanity are doing far more to make it happen than the average everyday Joe. The hype they put out defeats their agenda when they make predictions that never happen. I can remember when our climate czar told us New York would be under water by 2015. In 1965 we were told that by 1985 that everyone in the country would need to be wearing gas masks because of the air pollution. We were told tin 1969 that over 65 million people in the US would die by 1975 due to an eco-catastrophe. The list goes on and on.

There's no denying that the climate is changing over time, but the hype and predictions surrounding it have been so over blown and unrealistic that a large portion of the population is skeptical at best. It might be facetious, but I saw a bumper sticker a while ago that expressed a somewhat skeptical view of climate change. It read "At Exactly What Point In Time Did The Climate Not Change?"
 
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I'm glad that I live in Wisconsin. Sixty years ago, California was the promised land. Now with all the regulations, the forest fires, , the drought and the floods, it's not the place for me.

I heat with wood and the thought of blocking up three cords of firewood with an electric chainsaw doesn't appeal to me. I mow roughly four acres of lawn, meadow and trees every two weeks with my 25 hp. rider. A battery run mower won't do it for me. I do use a battery operated trimmer and a battery operated leaf blower. My wife's 1/4 acre community garden would be a real chore with a battery operated tiller.

Twenty years ago, we planted some six acres of trees. We heat with a renewable resource, we compost and recycle waste with hardly anything going to a landfill. I tear down old appliances and machinery, reducing anything that can't be reused to sorted scrap which goes to recycling. I believe that we are doing our part to reduce the carbon foot print.
 
I've had these pants on for 5 days. Too much information? Believe me I left out a lot of otber stuff. And since they're made for someone with an "athletic" build, not me to say the least, they squeeze the hell out of everything I've got. Am I helping the planet? At all?

My showers are inordinately long. Sometimes 1.25 hours, even longer. That's why I don't take many anymore. I just live with dirt. It don't complain about living with me. I see myself as a trooper. Fighting the good fight.
 
projectnut said:
Some volcanic explosions do have an effect on the climate. According to the USGS in 1982 Mt. Saint Hellens put out 10 million tons of CO2 in less than 9 hours. Here's an excerpt from their publication.

"There is no question that very large volcanic eruptions can inject significant amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens vented approximately 10 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere in only 9 hours. However, it currently takes humanity only 2.5 hours to put out the same amount. While large explosive eruptions like this are rare and only occur globally every 10 years or so, humanity's emissions are ceaseless and increasing every year."

There have already been 72 confirmed eruptions in 2023. That's a bit of a misnomer in that an "eruption" is defined as an incident that started during the calendar year. The eruption could last weeks or months but is still counted as a single incident. Also not counted as part of the current year eruptions are those that have carried over from the previous year.

As for "keeping up with the Jonses" that's never been something we've ever considered. We use everything until it can no longer perform its intended purpose. That goes for clothing, housing, tools, vehicles, and everything else. We recycle everything we can, but don't get caught up in the hysteria that we must give up everything we've worked for to "save the planet".

Those professing the demise of humanity are doing far more to make it happen than the average everyday Joe. The hype they put out defeats their agenda when they make predictions that never happen. I can remember when our climate czar told us New York would be under water by 2015. In 1965 we were told that by 1985 that everyone in the country would need to be wearing gas masks by 1985 because of the air pollution. We were told tin 1969 that over 65 million people in the US would die by 1975 due to an eco-catastrophe. The list goes on and on.

There's no denying that the climate is changing over time, but the hype and predictions surrounding it have been so over blown and unrealistic that a large portion of the population is skeptical at best. It might be facetious, but I saw a bumper sticker a while ago that expressed a somewhat skeptical view of climate change. It read "At Exactly What Point In Time Did The Climate Not Change?"
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The Tonga volcano eruption last year is responsible for a tremendous volume of water vapor in the atmosphere. NASA predicted warmer weather for 2 years as a result, never let a crisis go to waste!

https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-fa...recedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere/

CO2 makes plants plants grow and is necessary to grow crops, it is not a bad thing!
 
Firstram said:
The Tonga volcano eruption last year is responsible for a tremendous volume of water vapor in the atmosphere. NASA predicted warmer weather for 2 years as a result, never let a crisis go to waste!

https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-fa...recedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere/

CO2 makes plants plants grow and is necessary to grow crops, it is not a bad thing!
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Too much of anything is no good.
We have lost a lot of the rain Forest, and forests so the amount of CO2 that the planet can handle is lower. Much of the concrete jus co2 when it's curing.
 
I find that people will move to the cleanest option they can get away with if given the choice. I have a battery powered mower, chain saw, and other yard equipment, and I love them. They are lightweight, clean, almost silent in comparison, don't choke me with half-burned fuel, and (the best part) I don't have to keep a can of aging gasoline that'll I'll spill half of trying to get it in the equipment.
And, I didn't need some know-it-all politician to tell me to do it.
I think one would be hard pressed to find a lawn care professional that really prefers gas powered equipment. What they prefer is low cost and ability to get the job done. They'd switch to the electric in a heartbeat if it were possible. Like with anti-lock brakes, the politicians meddling, pushing technology before it is ready, will just get people killed.
 
woodchucker said:
Too much of anything is no good.
We have lost a lot of the rain Forest, and forests so the amount of CO2 that the planet can handle is lower. Much of the concrete jus co2 when it's curing.
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And yet, we're still just barely above what plants really need to thrive. There is a reason that farmers pump CO2 into greenhouses. But, the point here is that a government mandate doesn't help anything other than the politicians claiming they're leading the parade by making the working man's life more difficult.
 
Here's a suggestion. Plant more trees. That'll do a lot more good then wearing the same clothes for 30 years.

Go out in the woods, plant trees and plants which bear produce that more animals have to eat. Go spread some seed.
 
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