Time is running out (California folk)

[skogkatt007]

What does that have to do with anything??

Are you 90?

 

[woodchucker]

From Reuters, a company with known false narratives

Reuters is considered an unbiased source. Highly factual , they don't sensationalize the headings of reports. Just wanted to share that. Much more respected than you are giving them credit for. Eventually every news source gets a story wrong occasionally. Some never get it right.

 

[C-Bag]

Reuters is considered an unbiased source. Highly factual , they don't sensationalize the headings of reports. Just wanted to share that. Much more respected than you are giving them credit for. Eventually every news source gets a story wrong occasionally. Some never get it right.

Because I’d never heard the assertion before I read the whole article then checked with Snopes and they concurred with the Reuters article.

Does a Single Volcanic Eruption Release as Much CO2 As All of Humanity Has to Date?

Faulty science claims the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) emitted by volcanoes vastly outstrips the amount produced by human activity.

www.snopes.com

 

[Flyinfool]

All the battery powered stuff is cool. I own many battery powered things.

No one is mentioning the elephant in the corner. All these lithium batteries will soon be dying of old age, they only have a 7ish year life span at best and only if treated properly which almost no one does or even knows how to do.. They are extremely toxic and worse for the environment than all the fuel they saved over their lifetime. And the electricity to charge them has its own environmental foot print. Most of the electric in the USA comes from burning coal.So your batteries are still pumping out greenhouse gasses as well as being a toxic mess down the road. The lithium batteries must be recycled but many maybe most will still find their way to a landfill to reek their toxic effects on the environment. I have not seen a good comparison of the full environmental impact of electric vs fuel over the full life cycle of both.

Lithium-Ion Batteries are Toxic From Start to Finish

Nearly every metal and chemical involved in lithium battery manufacturing creates health hazards, and some are toxic at every step.

www.alsym.com

 

[projectnut]

The easiest way to avoid landfills is to give the customer a discount for the new one when the old one is returned. The same thing is done for current lead acid car batteries. Currently the customer gets a discount of between $10.00 and $15.00 depending on the size of the battery returned. Over 98% of the lead acid batteries are recycled

 

[woodchucker]

All the battery powered stuff is cool. I own many battery powered things.

No one is mentioning the elephant in the corner. All these lithium batteries will soon be dying of old age, they only have a 7ish year life span at best and only if treated properly which almost no one does or even knows how to do.. They are extremely toxic and worse for the environment than all the fuel they saved over their lifetime. And the electricity to charge them has its own environmental foot print. Most of the electric in the USA comes from burning coal.So your batteries are still pumping out greenhouse gasses as well as being a toxic mess down the road. The lithium batteries must be recycled but many maybe most will still find their way to a landfill to reek their toxic effects on the environment. I have not seen a good comparison of the full environmental impact of electric vs fuel over the full life cycle of both.

Lithium-Ion Batteries are Toxic From Start to Finish

Nearly every metal and chemical involved in lithium battery manufacturing creates health hazards, and some are toxic at every step.

www.alsym.com

Agreed, but my Hitachi lithium's are like 12 years old maybe older. And still going strong. They are my oldest lithiums, and I'm much happier with the lithium's than the nicads.

But yes, most are burning coal for their power plants. Around here we have many solar panels, so they are helping offset the coal..
But then you have the problem of making the panels.

 

[skogkatt007]

The earth is alleged to have had ice ages. As well as very warm periods. What happens when humanity is faced with a naturally occurring extreme temperature period? In an ice age do we act with reckless abandon, cut all the trees down, so the earth warms up? In a hot age do we pollute the atmosphere with particulates that block out the sun's rays? This whole notion of man made global (insert) seems a bit hokey. The weather is going to change, or will have the tendency to do so. Can we survive? Can we adapt? A lot of the stuff going on is just virtue signallng.

Some people seem to gain satisfaction by exertimg moral superiority over others. I think a lot of the push these days is about that. Small children thundering from their precipices. "We will never forgive you!". O shut up and eat your Captain Crunch.

 

[CJ5Dave]

California and many cities seem to be moving toward electric, mostly mandated, not so much choice. Many of these places can't seem to manage their power demand, and have many residents who can't or won't be self sufficient. Last winter the Southeast (who has TVA, which can manage their power load) had mandatory rolling power blackouts to bail out the northern cities with power loads over their power availability. On Christmas day we had 6 hours of power outages to bail out the northern cities. Kinda scared me, but I have backup heat sources, coal oil lamps, propane cooking devices to get by (all fossil fuels which you can stockpile, unlike electricity). These city dwellers were warm with our electric power we unwillingly donated, as we celebrated Christmas in the dark. Thanks a bunch.

 

[Firstram]

What does that have to do with anything??

Are you 90?

Nothing. No, only a sophomoric 60 that's not so uptight. How about you?

 

[Nesse1]

California and many cities seem to be moving toward electric, mostly mandated, not so much choice.

This triggers a fear I have; local municipalities could enact laws outlawing gas equipment. Can they do this? Fortunately, where I live in California is pretty conservative, so I doubt they would go down this road. Los Angeles County could, though.

Edit: both my new mower and generator shipped today! Yeah!