Jay Leno article on machinists

[ddushane]

That's a good read, we need to do everything we can to spark the interest in our young'ns, My 7 yr old grandson was in my shop sandblasting pieces of a 110 yr old wood burning stove we're redoing for my shop. He was having a blast on the step stool at the blasting cabinet. It does a heart good to see that happening. Hoping to teach him about everything in my shop.

Dwayne

 

[HMF]

[h=1]Calling All Machinists[/h]This is an article that was published in the Popular Mechanics magazine
Written by the Tonight Show host Jay Leno




CALLING ALL MACHINISTS
BY JAY LENO, Photos By John Lamm


Leno's cars, like his '32 Packard, don't just look good.
They run right and that means he needs skilled
machinists to make parts.

​

​

​

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]Nowadays, if I meet younger people who run machine shops, they're working there because it
was their father's machine shop. You don't see a lot of young guys starting machine shops.
But it's a respectable trade and there's still a lot of money to be made. Take the guy who used
to be in the building next to mine. He made airplane parts and his business got so big he outgrew
the space. This was a guy with a little machine shop with a bunch of machinists. He made $14
million the year he left. I'll tell you how he did it. There are tons of phony airplane parts
coming from Asia and other sources that are stamped "Approved." Trouble is, they're not approved
by anyone that matters. So the big airlines would come there and say, "We need 600 titanium bolts."
Then they would have to have somebody stand there while the guy made the bolts out of titanium.
So the work never got out of the airlines' hands. When the bolts were done, they were stamped,
graded and delivered. You have to understand that some critical aircraft bolts are 4 grand apiece,
because the only way you can ensure that the bolts are being made right-there's such a black
market for counterfeiting aircraft parts-is to pay a trustworthy man to watch each and every
part being machined. That's why they're so expensive. So bolt by bolt, this guy's a millionaire.
What a difference from years past. In the old days technology was expensive and labor was cheap.
Look at my 8.0-liter Bentley. You've got about 75 acorn nuts holding the water jacket on. When
this car was built you could pay a guy 10 cents an hour to sit there all day and tighten acorn nuts.
Now it's just the opposite: Labor's expensive and technology is incredibly cheap. It's odd, but
I'm not simply talking about physical labor today. I'm talking about people with real skills.
I watched "Dateline NBC" a while back and they had some guy on who was a math genius. You could
throw him a column of figures and he could add them up quicker than you could on a computer. There
are guys like that with machinery, guys who can just look at an engine and know all there is to
know about it. Take the late Harry Miller, a real American genius-aesthetically and mechanically.
Here was a man who made racing parts and engines in the 1920s and 1930s that looked like beautiful
sculpture, but they actually worked. I don't believe Miller was a trained engineer-he was just an
intuitive engineer. I don't think he went to MIT or anything like that. But he had the vision. So
did Ettore Bugatti. And they had shops full of guys who had the skills to machine and make anything
they needed. How many guys are there like that today? I don't know. But a lot of them just get
passed by because it doesn't seem as though preserving and encouraging these skills is worthwhile.
By establishing college scholarships, I'm just trying to open up another area for kids-an area that
they may not know is available. When you're a kid, you always think you're the only one who thinks
about anything. It's like sex. You think, "My parents don't know anything about this." It's the same
type of reasoning.

I like the idea of making the job of a mechanic a respectable position. In my mind, I rank a
machinist higher than a computer operator. But I think in America's mind, a machinist is like a
Jiffy Lube guy-nothing against Jiffy Lube, but these are guys who have only the most basic automotive
skills. The machinist's craft just isn't acknowledged, probably because it's hard, meticulous,
often dirty work. People don't understand it.



[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
​

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]When Leno needs parts for his cars, he can't usually
find what he needs on the shelves at your basic discount store.
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT][/FONT]​

​

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]Here's an example we should never forget. Somebody literally made all the airplanes-the fighters,
bombers and transports-we used in World War II. We didn't win the war just because we were great
fighters-not to demean anybody who fought-but we also won because we had the ability to overwhelm
the enemy in terms of skilled production and technology. Think about Henry Ford and his chief engineer,
Charlie Sorensen, figuring out how to build four-engined B-24 Liberator bombers on a mile-long
assembly line in an enormous building at Willow Run, Mich. In California, before these East Coast
guys got into the picture, they built aircraft painstakingly one at a time outside in the sun.
But under the pressure of a world conflict, a couple of mechanical geniuses figured out a better way.
Back then, we had plenty of people with the necessary skills: Kids learned machining and welding
in high school, then they worked as apprentices until they mastered these trades. We built things
that were very well done. And we did it all in America. Take my '32 Packard V12. It was built in
Detroit, but some of the parts came from as far away as South Bend, Ind. The whole thing was made
here, most of it under one roof. That doesn't happen anymore and it worries me. You think about
another world war and you say to yourself, "Uh oh."

I needed high-speed gears made for one of my Duesenbergs. They're hypoid and helical. I found people
who could make one or the other, but not both. I couldn't find anyone to make them. There wasn't one
company in this entire country. Every gear cutter I tried told me that all the machines had been sold.
Some went to Korea, some to China. But I called a company in India and they could make the gears. And
I guess that would be okay. But finally, through an older man in Chicago, someone 10 years past
retirement, I was able to get them made. And all it took was 18 months. But a few years ago, this job
could be done within a few miles of Burbank Airport, right near my garage. I don't know if that means
anything to a lot of people but it's important to me. All these venture capitalists today don't make
anything. When they're dead, there's nothing left. Years ago, people made things that lasted. There
was a finished product. I have a garage full of 'em. If you want to preserve old cars, you need people
with the skills to do it. We're growing a generation of kids who won't know how to work on old cars.
That's why I support the Fred Duesenberg Scholarship and POPULAR MECHANICS sponsors the
Jay Leno/POPULAR MECHANICS Scholarship at McPherson College. It's too bad, but I see a lot of
essential skills going to Mexico or Japan. You can still wander off on a side street in those
countries and see some guy making something work because he's literally whittling a piece of metal*
to fit. True machinists don't think of metal* as something hard and unchangeable. They can make
anything they want, or replace nearly any part that's ever been made. I have a lot of respect for
those guys. I always will.
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]This article was printed in magazine. 2001

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Personally, I think there's hope for the skills & trades occupations. More often when I'm talking with shop and garage owners, they complain that they can't find any competent tradesmen. My response is: "Quit expecting a PHD to work for high school drop out wages and pay a fair salary". They responded with numbers that they are paying a competitive salary.

 

[alloy]

I'm glad I found this article and posted it. I've never got more post thanks and likes before even when I rebuilt my Bridgeport

Personally, I think there's hope for the skills & trades occupations. More often when I'm talking with shop and garage owners, they complain that they can't find any competent tradesmen. My response is: "Quit expecting a PHD to work for high school drop out wages and pay a fair salary". They responded with numbers that they are paying a competitive salary.

We have been looking for someone for several months now. We make helicopter parts and need a good dependable, experienced, drug free person to run VMC's. I've sat in on several of the interviews to judge their skills and was asked about one guy and I said I think he could probably fill the janitorial position we have open. The owner said he didn't think he'd be safe around the shop. And that's the best guy we had apply for the position. Basically if they are good, they are already working. We offer good wage, a great 401K, medical benefits, great working conditions, and 3 weeks paid vacation per year and still can't lure a good CNC person to work for us. I hope to retire from this company it's just that good.

They did bring me a helper out from the assembly area and some days she does great, some days (weeks) she does not. I've been teaching her how to set up jobs for over two months now. Last week wasn't a good week for her. I decided this was a new week today and things would be better. But I didn't think about bad parts from last week would be in the parts I did the second op on today. And at 4:15 today when the 3" face mill on the machine she was setting up turning a 2500 RPM hit the hard jaws on the vise and 10 HP tried to drive in through vise and the belts slipped and smoked and the motor finally stalled I decided that last week wasn't actually that bad.

Tomorrow will be better

 

[JimDawson]

And at 4:15 today when the 3" face mill on the machine she was setting up turning a 2500 RPM hit the hard jaws on the vise and 10 HP tried to drive in through vise and the belts slipped and smoked and the motor finally stalled I decided that last week wasn't actually that bad.

Tomorrow will be better

Oh the pain. anic:

Maybe a bit more training would be in order, like where the E-STOP is located.:angry::talktogod:

 

[itsme_Bernie]

Fantastic article- my sentiments exactly.

I wish he said this on the Tonight show!

Bernie

 

[itsme_Bernie]

By the way- hypoid and helical- does anyone know if that is done with a rotary table on top of another?

Bernie

 

[alloy]

She knows where the E stop is, just isn't using it. She watched a tool cut through a part and a fixture last week and said it didn't look right to her. We need to work on that some I think.

I get busy and don't see what shes is doing. I have 6 mills to set up and run and it's a handful to say the least.

One day came in from lunch and she had all 6 machines running, I was proud of her. Then there are the bad days. But for somone that's never been in a shop before and only trained for two months being able to even set up a basic simple job it pretty amazing.

But she doesn't "feel" it I think. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right, but you feel it or you don't. And that's something I cant teach.

 

[HalM]

I like this guy

http://www.kanabco.com/vms/reprints and essays/callingallmachinists.html

Did anyone here ever mess with the boss? I had one that said I needed to be watched like a hawk.
A lot of times he would be in the surface-grinding shop downstairs and I would be on
a Bridgeport right over his head. One day I fitted a dull chisel tool into a pneumatic hammer
and hooked it in a corner of a workbench foot and pulled the trigger for about a half second and
went right back to the mill. I could hear him flying up the stairs and then the lights kinda went out.

Everybody crashes something, sooner or later, and it doesn't need to be a nightmare thing, it's showing
us just how careful we need to be and to get our heads out of our asses. The thing I hate the most is
tin sheet pickups on the drill press when I was So Sure I had it under control.

That, and setting my clothes on fire with the MIG welder......


Hal M.
Radio Transmitter Gizmos
One at a time

 

[epanzella]

I'm a retired contractor and was always amazed at some of these office types with big jobs and 200K plus salaries that couldn't understand the simplest of mechanical concepts.