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My Logan 200 Lathe Rehab
First, I would like to thank those that have posted info on this sight regarding their Logan Lathes. I have accessed many of these threads and have learned a lot. Especially, I would like to thank those that have spent the time posting their progress on restoring Logan 200 Lathes specifically. Obviously, for me, these have been the most informative. It has been so helpful I thought I would post the work on my lathe hoping it will benefit someone else that heads down this path.
A little history
I purchased my Logan 200 Lathe on 12/10/2013 for XXXXXXXXX The serial number is 15012 so it appears it was manufactured in 1942 according to the info on the Logan Lathe Website. I had always wanted a small lathe in my home shop so when a friend mentioned his son-in-law might be interested in selling a small lathe I told him I may be interested. He must have told his son-in-law I was looking for a small lathe because the next day I had an email from his son-in-law with pictures of the lathe and his telephone number. I called him immediately and we spoke about what came with it and his honest assessment about its’ age, condition, and what would come with it. He told me it ran and everything works but he only used it to turn some plastic and wood. He was unsure about how it would be for turning steel and other metals. After finding out his price I went and picked it up immediately.
This is what it looked like at the location where I picked it up:
The lathe came with a full set of change gears (I think), six inch Cushman three jaw chuck, a steady rest, a lantern tool post, dead center, live center, some wood cutting chisels, and many misc. HSS cutting bits.
First, I should mention the last time I ran a metal lathe was in shop class in high school. I’m retired now so I won’t say how many years ago that was. Anyway, I had to refresh my memory in basic turning and facing operations along with learning the operation of this machine. Thanks to this website and YouTube, I was able to accomplish the basics.
I had planned on checking the machine over to assess what it needed and get started on refurbishing right away but other priorities took over. Recently, I returned to starting to work on this project. Getting reacquainted with basic lathe operations and working on several projects on the lathe helped me to determine the obvious needs of this machine. I’m sure there are many “less obvious” issues I’ll face once I start taking things apart. I was unsure if I wanted to spend time and money rehabbing this machine or just sell it and go buy a new 12 X 36 lathe. Cabin fever has set in and I needed a project so I guess I’ll get started on the rehab.
Getting Started
To date, I have purchased several items for this lathe as well as completed some minor repairs. I replaced the countershaft and bushings, installed a serpentine belt, installed a linked drive belt, installed a Phase II AXA size QCTP, and purchased a Shars 6 inch 3 jaw chuck and back plate. My spindle cone pulley gear had three teeth missing so I just purchased a used spindle cone pulley with gear from an eBay seller. It turns out this cone pulley with gear is in good shape but has been reworked with a brass sleeve and the ID of the pulley and gear measure 1.200 in. so as-is it is too small to fit my 1.250 in. spindle. I’m going to enlist the help of a small local machine shop to help me take care of that.
Yesterday, I started to take the lathe apart. I thought I would start with disassembling and removing the head stock.
Once I had the headstock off the lathe bed, I removed the back gears. Then, I was trying to figure out how to remove the name plate without destroying it when I noticed there were two tiny holes visible inside the headstock case. I used a small finishing nail that I ground flat on one end and cut the head off the other end and put it in a small chuck with MT2 mandrel. I was able to tap out the small drive screws and keep the name plate intact.
One of the surprises in disassembling the headstock was the keyed shifter gear LA-129 on the back gear eccentric shaft. The gear that came off of the eccentric shaft LA-125 has two keyways and looks like a 24 tooth change gear with an extra keyway to me. Unfortunately, I didn’t pay attention to which key slot was engaged with the key so it may be an adventure figuring out proper reassembly if there is such a thing. Has anyone else had a shifter gear like this?
I’m not sure exactly how well the back gears worked because the key was missing in the shifter rod so it was impossible to keep the rod in the right position. I was able to hold the rod out with the bull gear disengaged and the back gears worked as far as spinning the spindle. However, there was some noise that may be caused by the gears not meshing right because of the shifter rod key missing. I have a shifter rod key and spring on order from Logan.
Anyway, the pile of parts are on the bench and I’ll be focusing on the headstock assy. before moving on to the bed, apron, carriage, etc. It is apparent to me this machine has been apart before, maybe several times, for repairs.
That’s it for now.
Mike B.
First, I would like to thank those that have posted info on this sight regarding their Logan Lathes. I have accessed many of these threads and have learned a lot. Especially, I would like to thank those that have spent the time posting their progress on restoring Logan 200 Lathes specifically. Obviously, for me, these have been the most informative. It has been so helpful I thought I would post the work on my lathe hoping it will benefit someone else that heads down this path.
A little history
I purchased my Logan 200 Lathe on 12/10/2013 for XXXXXXXXX The serial number is 15012 so it appears it was manufactured in 1942 according to the info on the Logan Lathe Website. I had always wanted a small lathe in my home shop so when a friend mentioned his son-in-law might be interested in selling a small lathe I told him I may be interested. He must have told his son-in-law I was looking for a small lathe because the next day I had an email from his son-in-law with pictures of the lathe and his telephone number. I called him immediately and we spoke about what came with it and his honest assessment about its’ age, condition, and what would come with it. He told me it ran and everything works but he only used it to turn some plastic and wood. He was unsure about how it would be for turning steel and other metals. After finding out his price I went and picked it up immediately.
This is what it looked like at the location where I picked it up:
The lathe came with a full set of change gears (I think), six inch Cushman three jaw chuck, a steady rest, a lantern tool post, dead center, live center, some wood cutting chisels, and many misc. HSS cutting bits.
First, I should mention the last time I ran a metal lathe was in shop class in high school. I’m retired now so I won’t say how many years ago that was. Anyway, I had to refresh my memory in basic turning and facing operations along with learning the operation of this machine. Thanks to this website and YouTube, I was able to accomplish the basics.
I had planned on checking the machine over to assess what it needed and get started on refurbishing right away but other priorities took over. Recently, I returned to starting to work on this project. Getting reacquainted with basic lathe operations and working on several projects on the lathe helped me to determine the obvious needs of this machine. I’m sure there are many “less obvious” issues I’ll face once I start taking things apart. I was unsure if I wanted to spend time and money rehabbing this machine or just sell it and go buy a new 12 X 36 lathe. Cabin fever has set in and I needed a project so I guess I’ll get started on the rehab.
Getting Started
To date, I have purchased several items for this lathe as well as completed some minor repairs. I replaced the countershaft and bushings, installed a serpentine belt, installed a linked drive belt, installed a Phase II AXA size QCTP, and purchased a Shars 6 inch 3 jaw chuck and back plate. My spindle cone pulley gear had three teeth missing so I just purchased a used spindle cone pulley with gear from an eBay seller. It turns out this cone pulley with gear is in good shape but has been reworked with a brass sleeve and the ID of the pulley and gear measure 1.200 in. so as-is it is too small to fit my 1.250 in. spindle. I’m going to enlist the help of a small local machine shop to help me take care of that.
Yesterday, I started to take the lathe apart. I thought I would start with disassembling and removing the head stock.
Once I had the headstock off the lathe bed, I removed the back gears. Then, I was trying to figure out how to remove the name plate without destroying it when I noticed there were two tiny holes visible inside the headstock case. I used a small finishing nail that I ground flat on one end and cut the head off the other end and put it in a small chuck with MT2 mandrel. I was able to tap out the small drive screws and keep the name plate intact.
One of the surprises in disassembling the headstock was the keyed shifter gear LA-129 on the back gear eccentric shaft. The gear that came off of the eccentric shaft LA-125 has two keyways and looks like a 24 tooth change gear with an extra keyway to me. Unfortunately, I didn’t pay attention to which key slot was engaged with the key so it may be an adventure figuring out proper reassembly if there is such a thing. Has anyone else had a shifter gear like this?
I’m not sure exactly how well the back gears worked because the key was missing in the shifter rod so it was impossible to keep the rod in the right position. I was able to hold the rod out with the bull gear disengaged and the back gears worked as far as spinning the spindle. However, there was some noise that may be caused by the gears not meshing right because of the shifter rod key missing. I have a shifter rod key and spring on order from Logan.
Anyway, the pile of parts are on the bench and I’ll be focusing on the headstock assy. before moving on to the bed, apron, carriage, etc. It is apparent to me this machine has been apart before, maybe several times, for repairs.
That’s it for now.
Mike B.
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