Electric Vehicles on the horizon? Do your homework

Just the sound alone would make me choose an ic sports car over an electric one.
 
Dhal22 said:
Just the sound alone would make me choose an ic sports car over an electric one.
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I agree completely! But I wouldn't buy a modern sports car with traction control and a flappy paddle gearbox anyway. Any sports car newer than mid 2000s is a nanny state crap box filled with anti-fun electric garbage.

That said, if what you are looking for is a subcompact, crossover or sedan, and do 250 miles or less in a day, an EV wins hands down. In another 2 years, add "F150 sized pickup" to that list as well.
 
ErichKeane said:
I agree completely! But I wouldn't buy a modern sports car with traction control and a flappy paddle gearbox anyway. Any sports car newer than mid 2000s is a nanny state crap box filled with anti-fun electric garbage.

That said, if what you are looking for is a subcompact, crossover or sedan, and do 250 miles or less in a day, an EV wins hands down. In another 2 years, add "F150 sized pickup" to that list as well.
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Standing in line outside a trendy restaurant years ago when I heard a snarling sports car pull up to the valet behind me. All the ladies in line in front of me snapped their heads around to look. Try that with a tesla. Friend of mine has a 4 door Maserati sedan with great sound. I could care less how much quicker a tesla sedan is.
 
Just for the fun of it, especially if you like acceleration, go do a test drive of an electric car. Some of us don't own one because it is practical or the best ecologically or what-have-you. I'm a relatively old child and can't get enough of the acceleration and calm-exhilaration that can't be otherwise had in a car. It is very strange at first. Then you are hooked. At least my wife and I are.

It brings joy to my heart to have a "rolling coal" truck pull up beside me at a light. There is a handful of them around where I live. They have the big-*ss diesel engine that could wake the dead and blacken the sky and are for some reason po'd that someone is driving an electric. They take off like their trailer-hitch tennis-balls are on fire. I wait for a full second to give them a sporting chance and then have them in my rear-view a few seconds later. Yes, I'll admit to my immaturity. I have no defense. And, 99.9% of the time I'm a boring, careful, and courteous driver. Before anyone pigeon-holes me, I have been a pickup owner my whole life. An old rusty dodge stake-side that didn't really run about half the time was my first "car". I have no argument against pickups. Ford Lightning someday maybe? We'll see.

Batteries are not quite "there" but are getting better. Fusion is not here yet. Fusion is hard. Research is ongoing on several fronts. For a reference point, my present car has >250 miles range and I am not anxious. I buy no gas and my lazy nature likes not having to stop for gas. I would rather be back in the shop or watching TOT or something.

I understand that the horse and buggy were quite popular at one time. From what I've read, there was quite a buzz during that transition too. I think we are right there in history with some shaking their fist at the loud horse-scaring horseless carriages and some smiling and looking forward to even better horseless carriages. I'm generally in the second camp. I feel for both camps.

I say smile and enjoy the ride, whatever your ride is!
 
Dhal22 said:
Standing in line outside a trendy restaurant years ago when I heard a snarling sports car pull up to the valet behind me. All the ladies in line in front of me snapped their heads around to look. Try that with a tesla.
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The one thing I've learned about owning a sports car: you think it is going to get you the attention of the ladies, but they don't know what they are looking at. Instead you chat with a bunch of dudes about car stuff.

Unless you tape $100 bills on the outside of your car, or it is a well-known expensive luxury car, girls don't care.
 
ErichKeane said:
The shared components are most of the electrical drivetrain. The converters and chargers and inverters are all commodity products shared amongst manufacturers. They are way less specific than a new water pump or oil pan at least.
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Not from my research.
 
Superburban said:
Not from my research.
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Just about all of the electronics are shared off-the-shelf parts from Korean manufacturers (or copies of them). I worked for a while on EV/Self driving tech (when my company owned MobileEye), and they were all just the exact same boards in different clamshells.
 
ErichKeane said:
Just about all of the electronics are shared off-the-shelf parts from Korean manufacturers (or copies of them). I worked for a while on EV/Self driving tech (when my company owned MobileEye), and they were all just the exact same boards in different clamshells.
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you'd be surprised how different industries utilize the same tactics
 
ErichKeane said:
Just about all of the electronics are shared off-the-shelf parts from Korean manufacturers (or copies of them). I worked for a while on EV/Self driving tech (when my company owned MobileEye), and they were all just the exact same boards in different clamshells.
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That does not help a consumer that needs a drive module for a 2015 chevy xx, 20 years from now. The couple I looked up last year, did not even use the same module from 2018 on a 2020. everything is moving so fast now days.
 
Superburban said:
That does not help a consumer that needs a drive module for a 2015 chevy xx, 20 years from now. The couple I looked up last year, did not even use the same module from 2018 on a 2020. everything is moving so fast now days.
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The parts tend to be interchangable. WIres are way easier to mix/match between models than castings, so the difference between a 2015 Chevy Bolt inverter and a 2035 Nissan Whatever is a wiring harness.

The 3rd party aftermarket for EVs is likely to be BETTER than ICE engines. The electrical bits (like a standalone ECU for an ICE) are the most interchangeable parts on a car, once the entire drivetrain is electric, that becomes even easier.

To summarize my point, what is easier: Adapting the transmission from a 2019 Chevy Silverado to a Kia Soul, or buying a $20 wiring harness/or small circuit board to swap the important parts from 1 EV to another? Not to mention, the electrical parts are much less error-prone than the mechanical ones.
 
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