Mystery Clausing?

FWIW I have Logan 820 10" lathe and Logan 8" shaper and I still was drooling all over this. I'm down in Mason County. If you want advice on moving it, KISS. Spend the $ to rent the Sunbelt bed lowering/kneeling training regardless of how far you have to go get it or round trip. IIRC you can get chain and binders from them too, use cardboard to protect machine. If you don't have a pallet jack I'd purchase one as with your small space it will be a life saver. Buy 4X4 for dunnage to put between machine & lathe and possibly shaper. If lathe has pads for feet grit teeth buy them from McMaster Carr as $ well spent. Then you can put them on and get lathe off the jack. IMHO I wouldn't try this one with an engine hoist. Only fork lift. If you elect to try with wrecker interview for any experience. Know it alls regularly drop them. Local advice from https://groups.io/g/seattlemetalheads/ a good group.
 
Dave Bonzo said:
Well, things have happened, but not what I expected. Bought the shaper; details later.
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Congratulations, one with an intact guard is a definite +. I'd take it off to move. The shaper can easily be moved with the typical Harbor Freight engine hoist. Bring 2X6 or 2X12 to place across the legs. Raise the shaper by the casting under the arm and then lower it to the boards across the legs. Keep the tension on the lifting straps. Don't try to move with it swinging free.
 
Short form: I think the lathe is in good shape, but it had a couple of worrisome features that stood out to me...but I'm a newbie, so it's probably a pretty solid option for someone that can better assess the overall condition. There were a couple of cuts in the bed near the headstock; I think someone took a grinder to that area as a relief cut...and while I don't think that impaired the overall function, it made me wonder about the rest of what they may or may not have done. There were also two roughly-cut windows into the cast cover on the end of the headstock; great for looking at the gears and oiling them, but why not just open, inspect and oil as per norm? The bearings felt pretty good, and I did the tighten-saddle-move-to-end test and it actually went 2/3rds of the way to the tailstock (didn't pull that off, but I looked under it) before it started getting snug; I probably could have gotten it to the end of I kept cranking. Tailstock number matches the number on the bed. There's a mysterious set of gears laying in the chip tray and the electrics are kind of a mess, but it does have the variable speed set-up. What I could see of the gears looked okay. Pictures are attached below; I was still tempted to take it, but those things stood out as signs of makeshift solutions/upkeep.
 

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Also, newest on the list of "things I've somehow thrown in my Toyota"...
 

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Shiseiji said:
Congratulations, one with an intact guard is a definite +. I'd take it off to move. The shaper can easily be moved with the typical Harbor Freight engine hoist. Bring 2X6 or 2X12 to place across the legs. Raise the shaper by the casting under the arm and then lower it to the boards across the legs. Keep the tension on the lifting straps. Don't try to move with it swinging free.
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Looks like the guards are intact; the only thing that's an issue is part of the forward table assembly feeling a bit loose...but I think there's a gib that can be tightened to reduce that movement. The motor assembly seems to be completely separate from the machine; the motor that's on it is a Sunlight, so it may be either original or from the manufacturing period. There's also a very cool plate that I'll get pictures of later.

Moving it was actually quite simple: we just picked it up and loaded it. I'm not sure what it weighs, but two people didn't have much trouble with it. The separate motor/base/drive/guards helped quite a bit.
 
Posted a thread on the new acquisition here...so now I don't have to clutter up this one.

Also, if anyone has opinions on the state of the lathe - i.e "should I have actually bought this instead of playing it safe?" - I'd like to hear them...and I promise that I won't be offended if I let a decent tool slip away because I don't know what I'm looking at.
 
AMMCO shapers weigh around 220#s, so they are definitely moveable by two people. I have an older one that uses flat belts, and one thing I learned is that you have to completely disassemble it to to work on most of the internals. And that starts with flipping it over on its side. The ram only comes off when you disconnect it from the bottom. That might have changed in the update to V-belts, but just keep it in mind. The bull gear is not made of metal, but it is available, albeit from a limited source. If you need that, let me know and I will dig out the link. I think the guy is in Tillamook, but not sure on that.

Neat machines in any case.
 
Those "access port" holes look to be someone's (bad) idea to improve easy of lubrication. And regarding the way notches, they look to be under the chuck. If they aren't in the carriage travel path, they won't hurt anything either.

Can you use these issues to leverage the price lower?
 
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