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Thanks I can't tell you how much you helped. I really did not think it was hitting that worm gear.
As to your worm gear I can't see how to get it out.
It looks like I replaced both bearings on that shaft but I don't how I got it out
 

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I got started on cleaning up the head. All that old grease did not want to come off!

The head after cleaning...
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Some parts after cleaning...
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I am amazed by how good of condition all of the parts are, once cleaned up everything looks like new, even after 40 years of use.

Still got a bit more cleaning to do.
 

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That cleaned up nice. Did you get the worm gear out?
That little roller bearing in your picture. Where did that come from?
I have forgotten so much its not funny
 

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I orignally thought that this little roller bearing was just a washer as it was all stuck together with gease...I didn't realize it was a bearing until I sprayed some brake cleaner on it.
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That little bearing was in the head casting where the far side of this shaft comes out of the head.
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In this spot...
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Hope that helps.
 

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It been a couple weeks since I had a chance to work on the mill, but I spent a little time today and got the head stripped down to bare metal.
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looks great did that gear ever come out?
What kind of grease are you putting in the head
 

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I tried to persude that gear to come out a few times but it is really in there and I don't want to break something, so I have just been working around it. Still working on getting all the internals cleaned up. My wife (and baby) will be at a baby shower tomorrow so I should have a little time to work on the Mill tomorrow.
 

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I got a little more work done on the Mill yesterday.

Figuring out how to get this assembally apart was a little bit of a logic puzzel but I got it done. Everything shoukd work much smoother when it goes back together without all the hard/sticky grease.

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I was able to use a brass punch to drive the return spring out...
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Now these 3 parts were cleaned up and ready for media blasting...
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After a quick trip through my blasting cabinet...
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I also finished cleaning up all the parts... sure hope I can remember how it all goes back together:oops:
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That's all for now.
 

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Hi everyone, it been a few weeks but I was able to do a little more on the Mill today.

I got the head all masked off for paint, that was a suprisingly big job.

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I sprayed epoxy primer followed by urethane single stage color coat.

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The paint should be all hardened up for next time so I can start the reassembally process.
 

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I made a bit of a start on putting the head back together...

Head after all the masking tap was removed from painting: 297548
Downfeed return spring re-installed:
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I'm assuming re-assembally should be the reverse of disassembally so I won't cover all the details but here is where I got to:

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I had to stop there because during disassembally a little retaining ring that held the bronze arm in place broke so I need to call Wells and order a new one.

Hope I can continue to get this head back together properly... so far so good.
 

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Hi everyone, work on the mill continues...

I found that I could use a snap ring in place of the original retaining ring, it seems to work well.
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Down feed quil handle done.
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Gear box finished, sorry for the lack of pictures, it was kind of a greasy/messy install, so it was hard to get pictures.
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And here's where I left off:
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I would have gone farther, but I realized I forgot to paint and refubish the rest of the parts so I have to do that before I finish assembally.
 

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The greese is nothing special just some synthetic axel greese. But I figured if it works in a car's wheel bearings it ot to work for the mill.
 

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I got a little more work done on the Mill yesterday.

Figuring out how to get this assembally apart was a little bit of a logic puzzel but I got it done. Everything shoukd work much smoother when it goes back together without all the hard/sticky grease.

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I was able to use a brass punch to drive the return spring out...
How did you get that apart?
I guess I will go look for that spring
I have that part in the ultrasonic that grease has turned to glue.
 

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Okay I figured it out all the old grease was not letting the cam turn far enough.
I don't see a spring in my cam
 

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Okay I figured it out all the old grease was not letting the cam turn far enough.
I don't see a spring in my cam
I'm sorry I didn't respond I had neglected this thread. I'm glad you were able to get it figured out azshadeguy.
 

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Sorry everyone for being so slow with the updates.

I do have a progress to report:

I had mess around with the with the return spring on the quill. As far as I could determine the spring kept poping out for no reason, seemed like everything was as designed but it wasn't working. I ended up using a little JB weld to help hold the return spring in its groove. Seems to work good now.
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Next up was to clean up and repaint the last few pieces. I sand blasted them and then just brushed the paint on. As it wasn't worth setting up the spray gun for 3 small parts
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Assembled:
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Installed on the head:
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I also polished up a few brass screws that had been overlooked:
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Next it was time to turn the head upright:
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And install what I think is the actuating mechanism for the back gear:
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And now the lower head is pretty much completed. That is as far as I got for now. I just need to mate the lower, middle and upper parts of the head and install on the machine... then look into a phase converter or VFD.
 

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I made a little more progress, on the Mill. I got the lower head mounted and in place.

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Also the JB weld worked and the return spring on the quill is staying in place now as it should.

Just baby steps but it's getring close to making some chips.
 

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Got a little more reassembally done on the mill today...

Got the back gear put on and the pulley installed. I had bought a key way set so I could replace the various Key ways on the mill...As per usual the key way for the pulley was an odd size so I had to use a file on a larger keyway to gey the correct size again.:( Not sure why every key way on this machine is an odd size.

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Next I got the belt guard on put on as well as the main drive cone pulley's put on, that was easy. Both belts are in good shape so I will re-use them.

Had a little trouble getting the back gear belt on but got it figured out.

Belt in place:
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Its starting to look like a Mill again:

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Next up I need to repaint the motot housing...But that will be another day.
 

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Thanks, yes I'm looking forward to finally having a working milling machine. Hope to do a little more work on it tomorrow. I had to work 6 days this weeks and some evenings.

How is your machine coming along azshadeguy?
 

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I keep getting sidetracked with other projects
I have to stop buying stuff at auctions
Bought a scissor lift and a 36 foot man lift
 

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I know how that goes, its very easy to get distracted with other projects, happens to me a lot. The scissor lift sounds like a really useful piece of equipment.
 

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I tinkered with a few things on the mill and got them working better. After that I partly dismantled the motor case/ electrical components and got them painted.
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motor and components freshly painted.
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The motor was working fine when I purchased the mill so I will just leave it as is other than painting.

That's all for now.
 

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Hey everyone. I got a little more done on the Mill today. I put the electrical components back together and installed them and the motor on the mill.
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I also media blasted the on/off switch and powder coated it wrinkle black. I need to make an extension rod as that was missing.
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The mill is just about done now.

The things that still remain are:
-I need to track down a few revolving knobs for the hand wheels as I don't like the original plastic ones and the knob on the knee was just a bolt when I got the mill.
-I also need to find one plastic knob that is missing from one of the leavers the head.

-I want to add some accent paint to the Cast 'Index' logo and to any cast raised lettering.

And of course I need to find a way to power this 3ph machine. I'm really not good with electrical stuff but I'll have to figure it out.

I'm Thinking my best options are VDF or a rotary phase converter. VDF is nice for the variable speed control...A Rotary converter might be handy for when I get my South bend 13 restored since I could use it for both machines...
 

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The mill is just about done now.
The mill looks amazing!

However, I worry that those shelf brackets above and behind it are overloaded! I'd hate to see any damage to the machine or paint.

-brino
 
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